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The Goblin Queen vs The Scarlet Witch

Madelyne

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Wanda

Who wins?

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Sep 26th, 2012 04:03 AM

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If Wanda is fully crazy and bloodlusted, she takes it IMO.

If she's not going all out, and hesitates, even for a second, that'll give Maddie the opening she needs for a psychic assault.

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Originally posted by Glorificus
If Wanda is fully crazy and bloodlusted, she takes it IMO.

If she's not going all out, and hesitates, even for a second, that'll give Maddie the opening she needs for a psychic assault.

^^^^^^^^^^^ This

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Very close match and anyone could win,but I give Maddie the edge.

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If this is HOM Wanda,
she makes a copy of the Goblin Queen, for kicks, then stomps them both.

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mastagambit
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HOM Wanda was broken and depressed and a mentally unstable character.
Maddie would take her out with a telepathic assault before Wanda could even have a fraction of a thought to create a hex or even utter a word.

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Sep 26th, 2012 08:20 PM

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HOM Wanda had an external amp when she did all that shiet . Doesn't mean that if she goes crazy in her regular state, she would be capable of something similar .

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Originally posted by mastagambit

HOM Wanda was broken and depressed and a mentally unstable character.

Yea,
it didn't stop her from consciously re-arranging the entire 616 Universe
into her own private paradise (Reality 58163)

Her power could not be contained, and cracked a hole in 616 now 58163,
then her power spilled out of 616 (uncontrollably) and went to Otherworld
and wrecked shop, took down the Omniversal Nexus (Starlight Citadel)
leading to tearing the Omniverse (outside of Otherworld) to pieces.

At the end, with a thought,
she consciously again re-arranged 58163 back into 616,
nullified the mutant gene across all future Timelines,
and 90% of all current Timelines,
and most incredibly, also reverted the Chaos Wave
and undid all the damage to the Omniverse.

HOM Wanda was God-like, and imo,
one of the most powerful characters to pop up ever.

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Originally posted by mastagambit

Maddie would take her out with a telepathic assault before
Wanda could even have a fraction of a thought to create a hex or
even utter a word.

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quote: (post)
Originally posted by Mr Master
Yea,
it didn't stop her from consciously re-arranging the entire 616 Universe
into her own private paradise (Reality 58163)

Her power could not be contained, and cracked a hole in 616 now 58163,
then her power spilled out of 616 (uncontrollably) and went to Otherworld
and wrecked shop, took down the Omniversal Nexus (Starlight Citadel)
leading to tearing the Omniverse (outside of Otherworld) to pieces.

At the end, with a thought,
she consciously again re-arranged 58163 back into 616,
nullified the mutant gene across all future Timelines,
and 90% of all current Timelines,
and most incredibly, also reverted the Chaos Wave
and undid all the damage to the Omniverse.

HOM Wanda was God-like, and imo,
one of the most powerful characters to pop up ever.

U should post more often

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mastagambit
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quote: (post)
Originally posted by Mr Master
Yea,
it didn't stop her from consciously re-arranging the entire 616 Universe
into her own private paradise (Reality 58163)

Her power could not be contained, and cracked a hole in 616 now 58163,
then her power spilled out of 616 (uncontrollably) and went to Otherworld
and wrecked shop, took down the Omniversal Nexus (Starlight Citadel)
leading to tearing the Omniverse (outside of Otherworld) to pieces.

At the end, with a thought,
she consciously again re-arranged 58163 back into 616,
nullified the mutant gene across all future Timelines,
and 90% of all current Timelines,
and most incredibly, also reverted the Chaos Wave
and undid all the damage to the Omniverse.

HOM Wanda was God-like, and imo,
one of the most powerful characters to pop up ever.

OMG. HOM Wanda did all of that? She is so powerful right? The same way Firelord is powerful and yet Spider-Man beat him.
Or Xorn kill Jean. But wait, you're gonna say those were PIS right?
Well fine.But just because Wanda did all of that does not mean she can beat Maddie.
Wanda creates hex. And when she does there is a probability factor that has to weigh in for the hex to work accordingly.
Maddie is a telepath of the highest order.
By the time Wanda can create a hex or even utter a word Maddie already defeats her.
If you are debating who is more powerful Wanda sure is. You can call her God-like is you want.
But if you are gonna debate who would win in a fight,Maddie surely beats her.

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Sep 27th, 2012 03:16 AM

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Originally posted by Mr Master
If this is HOM Wanda,
she makes a copy of the Goblin Queen, for kicks, then stomps them both.

Even if this Goblin Queen has the Goblin force?

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Even if this Goblin Queen has the Goblin force?

If it's the Goblin Force Goblin Queen vs Current Scarlet Witch, then she stomps.

But if it's HoM Wanda, then the stomp is in the other direction. "No more Goblins", and Maddie and the GF would be erased from all existence.

Oct 1st, 2012 09:13 PM

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quote: (post)
Originally posted by Glorificus
If it's the Goblin Force Goblin Queen vs Current Scarlet Witch, then she stomps.

But if it's HoM Wanda, then the stomp is in the other direction. "No more Goblins", and Maddie and the GF would be erased from all existence.

Havok with the Nexus of Realities tried that and apparently failed. The GF was mentioned a decade or so after those events in Marvel Tarot.

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U should post more often

agreed.

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quote: (post)
Originally posted by Glorificus
If it's the Goblin Force Goblin Queen vs Current Scarlet Witch, then she stomps.

But if it's HoM Wanda, then the stomp is in the other direction. "No more Goblins", and Maddie and the GF would be erased from all existence.

Goblin Force erased from all existence?
Really now. HOM Wanda can do that? confused

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Originally posted by mastagambit

OMG. HOM Wanda did all of that? She is so powerful right? The
same way Firelord is powerful and yet Spider-Man beat him.
Or Xorn kill Jean. But wait, you're gonna say those were PIS right?

Well fine.

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Originally posted by mastagambit

But just because Wanda did all of that does not mean she can beat Maddie.
Wanda creates hex. And when she does there is a probability factor
that has to weigh in for the hex to work accordingly.
Maddie is a telepath of the highest order.
By the time Wanda can create a hex or even utter a word Maddie
already defeats her.
If you are debating who is more powerful Wanda sure is. You can
call her God-like is you want.
But if you are gonna debate who would win in a fight,Maddie surely beats her.

You need to read House of M (8 prime issues plus Tie-ins) then return
and we'll talk about it.

I was referring to that version of Wanda, (HOM)
which would curbstomp Maddie, Rachel, Jean or any other burning chirper.

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Oct 2nd, 2012 12:17 AM

Mr Master
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Originally posted by zopzop

Havok with the Nexus of Realities tried that and apparently failed.
The GF was mentioned a decade or so after those events in Marvel Tarot.

Hey Zop, I have the Tarots, I don't recall, what issue?

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Oct 2nd, 2012 12:18 AM

mastagambit
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Originally posted by Mr Master

You need to read House of M (8 prime issues plus Tie-ins) then return
and we'll talk about it.

I was referring to that version of Wanda, (HOM)
which would curbstomp Maddie, Rachel, Jean or any other burning chirper.

That version of Wanda still creates hexes.
When she did 'no more mutants' there was a probability factor it would not work.
Hence why it did NOT erase ALL mutant powers.
You need to read up on her abilities. cool

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Originally posted by Mr Master
Hey Zop, I have the Tarots, I don't recall, what issue?

It's from The Marvel Tarot. The GF is the Avatar Force representing Water and opposes the PF which represents Fire.
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Marvel Tarot and Mystic Arcana four part series was awesome. Stupid idiots at Marvel never followed it up with anything worthwhile.

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Oct 2nd, 2012 12:33 AM

Mr Master
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Originally posted by mastagambit

That version of Wanda still creates hexes.
When she did 'no more mutants' there was a probability factor it would not work.
Hence why it did NOT erase ALL mutant powers.
You need to read up on her abilities.

Let me know if you need the issues, I have them scanned. smile

Until then, concerning HOM Wanda, ... night, night.

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