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Wonderman vs. Super Skrull

Who wins?

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Wonderman, but he would have to fight for.

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Bad match up for Klr't.

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You guys are nuts, Super Skrull murders him.

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Yeah he does^

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You guys are nuts, Super Skrull murders him.

The fire would be a joke, the strength is inferior and the stretchy powers are useless. The only unknown here are the invisi constructs. Other than that I can't see it bro.

Dec 20th, 2012 12:04 AM

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The fire would be a joke, the strength is inferior and the stretchy powers are useless. The only unknown here are the invisi constructs. Other than that I can't see it bro.

The fire would yes, but the anti-matter blast? I doubt that would be a joke.

Also those hyperspace constructs are stupidly overpowered. Susan's held out for a while vs Doom with a Watcher's power, sure it broke but the backlash wrecked Doom too and he needed time to get his head straight. SS could bubble him up or expand a bubble inside him till he ruptures. If that doesn't kill him, it still counts as a win via KO.

IF PIS/CIS is off, SS bubbles himself up, then goes to town on Wonderman H2H till he beats his ass into a coma.

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The fire would yes, but the anti-matter blast? I doubt that would be a joke.

Also those hyperspace constructs are stupidly overpowered. Susan's held out for a while vs Doom with a Watcher's power, sure it broke but the backlash wrecked Doom too and he needed time to get his head straight. SS could bubble him up or expand a bubble inside him till he ruptures. If that doesn't kill him, it still counts as a win via KO.

IF PIS/CIS is off, SS bubbles himself up, then goes to town on Wonderman H2H till he beats his ass into a coma.

Are the antimatter blasts used by Klr't? I thought that was one of Johnny's new tricks?

Dec 20th, 2012 12:17 AM

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Speed feats for both?

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SS is no Susan. IW owned him stick out tongue

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Are the antimatter blasts used by Klr't? I thought that was one of Johnny's new tricks?

He used one in his first appearance, a power that Johnny didn't/doesn't have. But did he use it in his other appearances (like hypnosis)? I don't know, probably not...

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Are the antimatter blasts used by Klr't? I thought that was one of Johnny's new tricks?

Nope, SS been had them. In fact, this was mentioned when he first debuted.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f98/t446514.html

SS is no joke. The reason they job him out a lot is because nothing short of High Herald would beat him if he used his powers half way intelligently.

He's the FF+. He can stretch for HUNDREDS of miles (something Reed can only dream of doing), his strength is Thing+, he has all the IW's powers, he can fly and control fire AND he has anti-matter blasts, plus he can shapeshift AND has a powerful hypnosis attack.

Wonderman is NOT winning.

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Speed feats for both?

Good question.Simon is fast, but not sure if it's a game changing difference or not.

Dec 20th, 2012 12:26 AM

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Good question.Simon is fast, but not sure if it's a game changing difference or not.

Speed? Super Skrull flies through space using nothing but his own power. His flight speed must be light speed+. Simon is nowhere near that fast.

Combat speed? Who knows.

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Nope, SS been had them. In fact, this was mentioned when he first debuted.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f98/t446514.html

SS is no joke. The reason they job him out a lot is because nothing short of High Herald would beat him if he used his powers half way intelligently.

He's the FF+. He can stretch for HUNDREDS of miles (something Reed can only dream of doing), his strength is Thing+, he has all the IW's powers, he can fly and control fire AND he has anti-matter blasts, plus he can shapeshift AND has a powerful hypnosis attack.

Wonderman is NOT winning.

I know Klr't well from Annihilation on. Not from his older stuff.

Dec 20th, 2012 12:28 AM

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Nope, SS been had them. In fact, this was mentioned when he first debuted.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f98/t446514.html

SS is no joke. The reason they job him out a lot is because nothing short of High Herald would beat him if he used his powers half way intelligently.

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Nope, SS been had them. In fact, this was mentioned when he first debuted.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f98/t446514.html

SS is no joke. The reason they job him out a lot is because nothing short of High Herald would beat him if he used his powers half way intelligently.

He's the FF+. He can stretch for HUNDREDS of miles (something Reed can only dream of doing), his strength is Thing+, he has all the IW's powers, he can fly and control fire AND he has anti-matter blasts, plus he can shapeshift AND has a powerful hypnosis attack.

Wonderman is NOT winning.

He needs to conserve energy, can't use too many powers at once...

Both Gray Hulk and Wolverine said he's weaker than Thing.

When did he use the anti-matter blast aside from his first showing?

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And wasn't he using a device to amplify his FF powers in his earlier appearance?

Dec 20th, 2012 12:37 AM

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He was dependant on some energy source on the beginning in both comic and cartoon, yes. That could very well explain his power level fluctuation.

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And wasn't he using a device to amplify his FF powers in his earlier appearance?

He don't need it anymore. I forgot the issue where this was stated outright.

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