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JMS Thor with Odin Force Vs Superman on panel feats!

JMS Thor with Odin force Vs. Superman, who has the greatest on panel feats. This is just the JMS Thor with Odin force not previous Odin force versions of Thor.


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Anybody with any freakin common sense knows this version of Thor is above an Elite tier member. Fts are not needed to judge this. That's like me asking, "who is more powerful, Sun dip Superman or normal Superman". Youll be hard pressed at proving Sundipped Superman is more powerful than an average Supes since an average Superman has all of his fts. Or how about Superboy Prime or Guardian amped Prime. Who is more powerful? Based off fts, Superboy Prime is more powerful but based off common sense, Guardian amped Prime is. Your logic is flawed bro.


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Anybody with any freakin common sense knows this version of Thor is above an Elite tier member. Fts are not needed to judge this. That's like me asking, "who is more powerful, Sun dip Superman or normal Superman". Youll be hard pressed at proving Sundipped Superman is more powerful than an average Supes since an average Superman has all of his fts. Or how about Superboy Prime or Guardian amped Prime. Who is more powerful? Based off fts, Superboy Prime is more powerful but based off common sense, Guardian amped Prime is. Your logic is flawed bro.



All I am asking for is evidence of how powerful he was on panel and I don't mean beating up Iron man or wrecking a few city blocks. Humour me and convince me on panel.


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All I am asking for is evidence of how powerful he was on panel and I don't mean beating up Iron man or wrecking a few city blocks. Humour me and convince me on panel.


How about tanking the Destroyer beam? How about fighting someone destroying a moon during the process? How about recreating the moon. Lifting asgard? Fighting BOR, someone that was stated as being capable of killing a high Herald in a single hit? There is more but its pointless for me to bring it up. This is enough.


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Split, classic Thor had better feats. Anyway, this Thor is more serious and probably hits harder. Superman is still faster. It depends on the version, regular would split.


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How about tanking the Destroyer beam? How about fighting someone destroying a moon during the process? How about recreating the moon. Lifting asgard? Fighting BOR, someone that was stated as being capable of killing a high Herald in a single hit? There is more but its pointless for me to bring it up. This is enough.


How big was the moon was it bigger than the one Superman smashed when Luthor was elected? Loads of people have been hit by the destroyer. Lifting Asgard, is that heavier than a book with infinite pages. It's not much is it?


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Split, classic Thor had better feats. Anyway, this Thor is more serious and probably hits harder. Superman is still faster. It depends on the version, regular would split.


I'm not sure JMS Odinforce Thor was all that Batman-Prime, I read the run, I'm just seeing if I missed something and he was uber uber!


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eek! please don't tell me that's your basis for Supes ~=OF Thor


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eek! please don't tell me that's your basis for Supes ~=OF Thor


I'd just like on panel proof. Can you provide that?roll eyes (sarcastic)


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How big was the moon was it bigger than the one Superman smashed when Luthor was elected? Loads of people have been hit by the destroyer. Lifting Asgard, is that heavier than a book with infinite pages. It's not much is it?


How big was the moon Superman smashed? Who has TANKED the destroyer beam? Ultraman soloed the book of infinite pages, is he stronger than Superman?


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Ultraman soloed the book of infinite pages, is he stronger than Superman?


Yep. Superman only lifted half of infinity. shifty


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How big was the moon Superman smashed? Who has TANKED the destroyer beam? Ultraman soloed the book of infinite pages, is he stronger than Superman?


How much is a % of infinity? I don't know how big the moon was, I'm asking you, because of that. Re: The Destroyer, Ordinary Thor for a start in Thor 151.


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I'd just like on panel proof. Can you provide that?roll eyes (sarcastic)

OF Thor has all feats of classic Thor, its an amp not a new character


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OF Thor has all feats of classic Thor, its an amp not a new character


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I'm not sure JMS Odinforce Thor was all that Batman-Prime, I read the run, I'm just seeing if I missed something and he was uber uber!


Imho the classic Marvel days had better feats and chars like Thor did better back then. He wasn't as often oneshotted or humiilated. The basis argument for OF Thor being stronger then his classic self is his quote where he says that a blow from Bor would have killed his former self. What speaks for this is his fight with Ironman. Anyway, by DBZ logic classic Thor was Herald Level with his OF upgrade he is Trans, I can't and won't follow that line of thinking. What he showed or Bor for that matter is Herald level at best.


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How much is a % of infinity? I don't know how big the moon was, I'm asking you, because of that. Re: The Destroyer, Ordinary Thor for a start in Thor 151.


So you think Ultraman is stronger than Thor as well? Wonder Woman lifted infinity as well. Is she stronger than an amped Thor.? IIRC, didn't the Destroyer kill regular Thor with those same beams? I'm done debating this. If you don't know the difference between power levels, then I don't know what to tell you.


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Imho the classic Marvel days had better feats and chars like Thor did better back then. He wasn't as often oneshotted or humiilated. The basis argument for OF Thor being stronger then his classic self is his quote where he says that a blow from Bor would have killed his former self. What speaks for this is his fight with Ironman. Anyway, by DBZ logic classic Thor was Herald Level with his OF upgrade he is Trans, I can't and won't follow that line of thinking. What he showed or Bor for that matter is Herald level at best.


I have a hard time understanding this way of thinking.

First off, OF Thor tanked an attack that previously killed his classic self. Straight up fried him. He survived the attack with only minor damage.

So, he already had feats that would suggest he can take things that would've killed him before, but Bor's a no? What did you think JMS's intention was when we had Thor say that? To just confuse everyone who read it and hope they see it as hyperbole that should just be forgotten? No...It was to give an idea of Bor's power.

Thor was specifically amped from his classic levels, by the OF no less, and he's still a high herald? k...

It's still not as bad as starscream saying he was low herald at best though.


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Hercules lifted infinity alone....

Herc has been stalemated by Thor in strength on multiple occasions

Thus

Thor is twice as strong as superman via your example...

And that's why we use avarages not weird abstract feats


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Imho the classic Marvel days had better feats and chars like Thor did better back then. He wasn't as often oneshotted or humiilated. The basis argument for OF Thor being stronger then his classic self is his quote where he says that a blow from Bor would have killed his former self. What speaks for this is his fight with Ironman. Anyway, by DBZ logic classic Thor was Herald Level with his OF upgrade he is Trans, I can't and won't follow that line of thinking. What he showed or Bor for that matter is Herald level at best.


I agree, that said, the Iron Man incident is how a Thor level character should handle Iron man. Wonderman did it even worse to Iron Man way back in Marvel Premier, in fact he shredded Iron Man's armour with his bare hands...


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