Still going with Tiamut. He had Arishem dead to rights before he was jumped by the rest of the Host. And even then, they sucker attacked him. He wasn't expecting them to jump in.
IMHO :
1) Tiamut
2) 4 Planet Amp Galactus
3) AFR
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Is this Tiamut vs Galactus and Franklin or Tiamut vs Galactus vs Franklin? If it's the first Galactus and Franklin wins, if it's the later then I actually can't see who will win. Their individual performance against various celestials are very equal to each other from my point of view.
Galactus takes this battle after a tough fight with Franklin.
After an extended battle. Franklin and Galactus were both killing the Mad Celestials left and right with one-shots. Tiamut is practically a non-factor here.
I used to think that as well, but now it's clear that the 4-planet-juiced Galactus did indeed appear to perform slightly better than Franklin against the Mad Celestials. And they both did much better than Tiamut did against Arishem or the rest of the 4th host.
Franklin seemed somewhat equal to Ashema, who in turn should be well below Tiamut. And Galactus was shown to be afraid of Tiamut, which he probably wouldn't be if he could just buff up and take him down.
It was stated on-panel that Tiamut would never have dared to take over the Heroes Reborn universe as long as it was under Franklin's protection. Ashema's weaker dominion gave him the window of opportunity.
Anyways, this is adult Franklin Richards, from Hickman's run. He's a whole different beast. He'd probably merk Ashema in less than 2 minutes.
Tiamut fought 5 Celestials on his own, and granted didn't win but fighting alone against that many and not getting immidiately overwhelmed but actually holding his ground and giving them a fight that complete depletes them, imo shows that Tiamut in this fight isn't a non factor
The problem is, back then they where written as incapable of being destroyed by each others hand. This does not apply to Franklin Richards, or Galactus.
Knowhere. And they couldn't be destroyed by anything based on Tiamut's account, not just by each other.
It absolutely does, as both stories are part of canon. Celestials were pretty much destructible even before Gaiman's take, and have remained so post-Gaiman.
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He "failed to kill any of them" because he was already going beating the crap out of Arishem : (please log in to view the image)
Arishem "the greatest of the Celestials".
So he took on the "greatest of the Celestials" and was winning then 4 more jumped in and after a protracted battle, finally put him down.
I don't see any argument there. At this point all you're doing is recycling the same defeated points you made previously, and it's clear that you'll mindlessly spam them over and over in an attempt to troll your way to "victory" in this thread.
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