I just corrected the mistake people had when they said Iceman beat Oblivion. He didn't, Oblivion was testing his worthiness to "date his daughter" (trust me it makes no sense).
As we've seen on panel, when Oblivion did actually get into a fight, he couldn't handle Infinity despite being in his realm AND having help from Anomaly Maelstrom.
Oblivion=Death=Infinity=Eternity more or less.
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..even the outer hells are indifferent matters for they bow only to potent and archaic Nodens.
IIRC, in his Mikaboshi guise, he killed Zeus without much trouble, so that alone suggest he's above Odin. And Chaos King was definitely way above Skyfather tier.
He was supposedly beyond Odin because of the ease in which he killed Zeus. But you have to keep in mind freaking ARES almost beat/killed Mikoboshi! So much confusion and fail.
Yet still merely an aspect of Oblivion. The same Oblivion that couldn't handle Infinity even with homefield advantage and better help. The same Infinity that is the flip side of Eternity.
I wish I could stomp on the throat of both the writer of CW AND the lead editor over at Marvel.
Funny thing is : Branlor and I were arguing over this a few months back. Before the retcon, I believed CK was above ANY abstract short of the LT.
Branlor made, in retrospect, a very good point. The only people he, CK, beat were minor divinities and a hungry Galactus. The "skyfathers" that were members of the Council of Godheads during CW were NOT true Skyfathers. Izanami is NOT the Japanese skyfather, Izanagi is. It wasn't Odin he beat, it was King Baldur. Where was Vishnu? Etc...
At the time I argued that the writer made his intentions clear by using phrases like "Council of Godheads" and "Council Elite" to state they were skyfathers.
Looking back...............Branlor could have a very good point.
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..even the outer hells are indifferent matters for they bow only to potent and archaic Nodens.
It is, that's why the story made no sense and they tried a "soft retcon" which only phucked things up more.
Don't try to understand what happened. Just know that CK is nothing more than an aspect of Oblivion and despite destroying 98.75% of the mutliverse he still didn't come as close as Scrier/Other would have if they faced off without Surfer/Thor/Rachel stopping them.
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..even the outer hells are indifferent matters for they bow only to potent and archaic Nodens.
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