I like Pun better but I think Catwoman takes the majority
__________________ QUANCHI112:In between the passes Khan will tear out the orca teeth and use them as an offensive weapon. Khan has crushed a skull before so tearing a tooth off a whale should be no issue.
Punisher wins. He has an impressive armory and at some point even had villain tech. Hand to hand he can take cat woman and unlike batman won't hold back as he isn't trying to..'take her in' just trying to 'take her out'
Being trained by the military in comics doesn't mean you can't lose to anyone who hasn't been. Selina is pretty criminally underrated when it comes to hand to hand.
Catwoman isn't just a street criminal though. She was trained by Wildcat, a master martial artist in his own right, among others. If Catwoman was just some broad who stole stuff, Batman wouldn't have nearly as much difficulty as he's had with her. And iirc, Catwoman's proven more than a match than more than one Robin.
I think the best catwoman could do is get away from Punisher. His damage soak is just too ridiculous imo for her to try to stand and trade with him. Additionally he isn't just some storm trooper accuracy mook... he generally hits his target or throws up enough of a screen of bullets to make it a moot point when it comes to accuracy/explosives/
Don't those street level criminals have extensive training themselves to beat something like a navy seal in H2H or some power that aids in their defense/offense that cat woman doesn't posses.
you guys swear that even SEALS have extensive h2h training automatically. my God, people really just know what they see on t.v. there's guys on the street that can naturally hit like a bus and could one shot anybody. anybody has a puncher's chance.
__________________ QUANCHI112:In between the passes Khan will tear out the orca teeth and use them as an offensive weapon. Khan has crushed a skull before so tearing a tooth off a whale should be no issue.
my dad was a navy seal jack ass and i live in a military family so suck it i do know what they r capable of i was raised in it and ur out of ur mind if u think a street brawler has a punchers chance at jack shit
obviously you're a child. you may want to read up on what training SEALS receive. It's really basic throws, some grappling, and some strikes. You have to train for YEARS on a regular basis to be proficient. They hardly do any of that at all. I wasn't a SEAL, but I've known quite a few and talked to enough while I was in the military.
__________________ QUANCHI112:In between the passes Khan will tear out the orca teeth and use them as an offensive weapon. Khan has crushed a skull before so tearing a tooth off a whale should be no issue.
The generic 'seal' in my argument would be one trained in hand to hand. If not there is no reason behind mentioning it since it's supposed to be a comparison to Franks seal training.
Frank should be able to take cat woman, he is stronger and has good durability/damage soak and I can see him knifing her in the ribs.
there is nothing about military cqc training that civilians can't have access to. in fact, the cqc systems of most countries' armed forces are taught in MA academies open to the public, though many will register practicioners and exclude people with criminal records or teach slightly toned down versions of the systems. it's easy to hire muscle with decent military-like h2h training.
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Apr 19th, 2013 04:02 PM
IRL for that matter.
there is nothing about military cqc training that civilians can't have access to. in fact, the cqc systems of most countries' armed forces are taught in MA academies open to the public, though many will register practicioners and exclude people with criminal records or teach slightly toned down versions of the systems. it's easy to hire muscle with decent military-like h2h training.
