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ozz81
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Nekron vs Classic Beyonder

Who wins this?

May 13th, 2013 10:34 PM

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the Darkone
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Classic Beyonder>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Death>Nekron

May 13th, 2013 10:36 PM

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zopzop
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Classic Beyonder 100000000/10.

Classic Beyonder was more powerful than the entire MU. Nekron can't win.

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May 13th, 2013 10:39 PM

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yaadaveyaa
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which one is worse death or nekron? or r they the same thing

May 13th, 2013 11:51 PM

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What do you mean "worse"?

Nekron is both a death (ruler of 1/3 of the afterlife where ALL souls pass through on their way to either Heaven or Hell) and an oblivion abstract (the sentient blackness before creation and the void between atoms and planets).

As impressive as he is, he's still no match for the Classic Beyonder. Classic Beyonder can't lose this.

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May 13th, 2013 11:57 PM

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Beyonder, spite.

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yaadaveyaa
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i know beyonder wins the only thing i can think of thats even a close match for him is LT but i just wanted to know the difference with death from mu and nekron if they were the same thing just for different companies i guess theres a little twist

May 14th, 2013 12:32 AM

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death of the endless is the true personification of death in DC not Nekron.

May 14th, 2013 12:55 PM

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Originally posted by operator616
death of the endless is the true personification of death in DC not Nekron.

Proof?

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May 14th, 2013 01:27 PM

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death of the endless is the true personification of death in DC not Nekron.

This was the case when the Endless were created, but other writers have since blurred the lines and made cases for and against Death of the Endless.

So it's a grey area, really.

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May 14th, 2013 04:18 PM

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Nekron isnt death. It's the personification of the void, the darkness, the shadow that was given life when life started in the universe.

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Nekron isnt death. It's the personification of the void, the darkness, the shadow that was given life when life started in the universe.

Nekron's first appearance wasn't Blackest Night. He made a few appearances as ruler of one of the possible afterlife destinations as Zop mentioned.

IIRC it wasn't actually until Blackest Night that there was any mention of his Void/Oblivion status in addition to Death

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May 14th, 2013 04:28 PM

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Nekron's first appearance wasn't Blackest Night. He made a few appearances as ruler of one of the possible afterlife destinations as Zop mentioned.

IIRC it wasn't actually until Blackest Night that there was any mention of his Void/Oblivion status in addition to Death

I know that, yet it doesn't change the fact that John changed all that with a retcon.

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May 14th, 2013 04:33 PM

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I know that, yet it doesn't change the fact that John changed all that with a retcon.

Johns didn't take anything away, he just added. If anything, Nekron's command of the dead in Blackest Night reaffirmed that position

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May 14th, 2013 04:35 PM

xJLxKing
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Johns didn't take anything away, he just added. If anything, Nekron's command of the dead in Blackest Night reaffirmed that position

He didn't command the dead. They were not alive nor was it the real people that he revived.

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May 14th, 2013 04:38 PM

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This was the case when the Endless were created, but other writers have since blurred the lines and made cases for and against Death of the Endless.

So it's a grey area, really.

give examples.

May 14th, 2013 06:31 PM

zopzop
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give examples.

It doesn't work that way. You stated she was the one and only Death.

Here is on panel evidence stating otherwise :
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There are at least three faces of the Death abstract in DC : Black Racer - Death as Inevitability, Death of the Endless - Death as Compassionate Release, Nekron - Death as Cosmic Certainty AND Death as the Ultimate Foe.

Ok now your turn.

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May 14th, 2013 07:00 PM

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Beyonder makes Nekron a drink. Soon as he drinks it he is instantly owned.

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It doesn't work that way. You stated she was the one and only Death.

Here is on panel evidence stating otherwise :
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There are at least three faces of the Death abstract in DC : Black Racer - Death as Inevitability, Death of the Endless - Death as Compassionate Release, Nekron - Death as Cosmic Certainty AND Death as the Ultimate Foe.

Ok now your turn.

i admit this evidence is new to me, and this looks old, are you sure this hasn't been retconned yet? because death of the endless is way above black racer, it's logical to assume that she has more authority than him.

May 14th, 2013 08:13 PM