- Superman easilly beats Hulk by punching him 10 thousand times in a second.
- when has Superman ever done that?
- he hasn't. But he has the speed for it. We've seen him rebuild an entire city in a matter of seconds. Surely that's way harder than throwing punches.
- Well, he's never actually done it on-pannel so STFU.
I've seen a debate like that on various vs forums. Where do you stand on the subject and why?
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I agree, but I'm not talking about CIS but characters abilities overall. Logic dictates Supes could do it but we've never actually seen it. So is that a valid argument to use in a CIS free vs fight?
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CIS-free? Rough translation "fight is dictated by theoretical ability and no character considerations whatsoever"?
For the most part I would agree.
The one caveat that must be included, however, is that some techniques require skills developed by training and practice. I would not expect Superman to be as effective in superspeed techniques as Flash, for instance, or even Wonder Woman.
Actually, I remember one comic, Jesse Quick + Wonder Woman, where Jesse herself made that comment about Wonder Woman.
Diana's quarry (Lady Savitar) got away precisely because Diana was not used to dealing with the strange physics the Flashes deal with everyday.
Diana was a quick study, and eventually the JQ/WW team won, or at least thwarted Lady Savitar's plan in the end, but it took some adjustment.
There's a learning curve associated with some of these proposals that most debating fans don't consider.
If that one striked out feat is causing you such problems, then you should be aware that Superman performed that feat under a blue sun that acts as a super-amp for him.
And when we actually see Superman instantly knocking out a Hulk-class foe with thousands of punches before that Hulk-class foe can even move an inch, then it's worthy of discussion. Until then, the notion is as worthless as arguing Thor/Surfer would send Mjolnir/surfboard to instantly knock out Hulk with thousands of homed-in hits before Hulk can even move an inch.
only thing is we have seen superman plenty of times speedblitzing and using his speed in a fight.
but of course superman is not thor , therefor non of his feats counts no matter how many times he will repeat same feat over and over.
but thor 200 years ago using mjolnir to suck someones soul 1 singular time will be always part of his skill set.
You misunderstand what CIS-free means. -Pr- and Badabing have reinforced many times over the years that CIS-off isn't a made-up forum avatar who can perform feats that have never actually been performed on-panel -- simply because you theorize the character is capable.
I can only hope for your sake that this misunderstanding is responsible for your warped approach; which says nothing of your attitude here. You might want to focus your scattered thoughts into a more coherent response. Overcoming your irrational attitude towards Thor might help in that.
Meh, clearly Hulk posesses quite dynamic speed, like Lobo got dynamic strength. He can struggle with street level scum in this department, while heralds with super-duper speed fail to gain any clear advantage the same way.
In short I don`t see supes taking down Hulkie Boy in a fraction of a second this way.
Superman's not mentally retarded, and he can move girders and weld stuff at a gazillion times the speed of comics. Naturally he should be able to punch at that same speed.
That's not theorycraft with a powerset.
I see a distinction between CIS-free and whatever you want to call powerset mode.
I'm glad to see your edited your post to make it a bit angrier.
Time to lay off the projection.
I don't see what Thor has to do with this, nor do I see where you get the idea that I have an irrational attitude towards Thor. Is that attitude for or against him?
Is this because I ridiculed your "Hulk can never lose" post?
Galactus never beat the shit out of heralds physically, i guess that means he cannot do that?
you see sometimes when we know for a fact someone is capable of doing something its just dumb to ask for scans showing him does that.
spider man never takes a dump in comics, would you ask for scans proving he can take a shit?
Neither do I, but there IS a contigent here who took often resorts to Superman "stunning" and opponent and then "speed blitzing" them, and the fight is supposedly over. We see it day in and day out.
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