May as well ask if they could beat infinity eternity or death.... To me there's no celestial that could do it individually... As a whole the celestials have numbers that could overwhelm
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Scathan could, moreover, I believe it was stated on panel recently that the Celestials were the ones responsible for creating the multiverse.
They've never really had concrete origins, rather ambiguous.
Their origins have been mostly emphasized in Fantastic Four annual #26. There were several theories regarding their origins, and Kosmos' final deduction was that their origins were associated with Eternity:
On another note, it's possible that (setting the statement into a greater perspective), would mean that along with the Proemial Gods they brought order to chaos that was the beginning of the marvel universe but *shrug* Imo Xmen has a fantastic ability to completely ignore everything else and do whatever they want.
That's great but just because you are spawned from Eternity doesn't mean you have to be weaker than him. Even amongst Celestials there is a tier in power ranking.
Just look at some of the crazy omega mutants Marvel are spewing in past few decades.
True. Even in the scans operator posted(which tout the Celestials as the creators of the multiverse, mind you), we learn that one of the Celestials' monstrous creations turned on(and presumably destroyed) a few of them: http://imgur.com/BPC7BDy
I think he's suggesting that just because the Celestials *were* creations of Eternity, does not automatically mean Eternity was superior to them by proxy... Which I agree with. One example of many: Doom /w/ IG created an entire universe, along with every life form within it, from scratch--yet this didn't stop Doom's creations from overpowering him and usurping control of the gems. ie. creations>creator.
Anywho, the most current evidence(which is the most canon) states that the Celestials created the universe/multiverse(ie. Eternity)--not the other way around. This retcon essentially renders the argument moot either way. /shrug
Most current evidence also has Celestials getting killed by a simple enchantment.....that's not exactly Eternity level if you ask me. Their portrayal has been inconsistent. So even with those recent revelations, i don't think Celestials' "average" puts them in the Abstract tier.
No it doesn't. In theory Eternity should be the the most powerful entity other than Abstract/creations beyond him. But this is not true as we have seen mutants that have been able surpass him.
Which is fine. I was just pointing out that being created does not mean you are weaker and is not proof that Eternity > Celestials.
I am fairly sure that he's gonna get destroyed by it, but will eventually reappear in another comic years(or maybe decades) later. Afterall, per Odin the Jarnbjorn enchantment was specifically meant to be used only in case of the Celestial Executioner's appearance on Earth.
Well, at least we know for sure now that Celestials can actually resurrect/regenerate from death over time. I guess this is what Galactus meant when he expressed surprise when Thanos w/ HoTU oneshotted Ziran.
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