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What Telepath could dominate Legion

Is there a Telepath out there that could dominate Legion at his best, so badly that it would leave him in a catatonic state? The battle begins when the Telepath of your choice pulls Legion unto the Astral Plane.


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Galactus can.

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Strange could.


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No. Isn't he confirmed 10x Xavier when not at his best?


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No. There may be telepaths that beat him, but I doubt anyone can dominate him, not at his best.


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...At his best? As in, when he's merged every single personality of his (and he's had thousands of them, multiple of which are reality warping personalities) and has them all under his control? I really can't tell.

Although, some of his individual personalities don't have defenses against telepathy. For example, Karma mind controlled him in New Mutants v1 #44, when he has the Jack Wayne persona from what i remember, despite the fact that he's resisted Xavier back in New Mutants v1 #26 (which was in the same series) while utilizing his Jemail personality. And im pretty sure Shadow King controlled him in an X-Men annual.


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No. Isn't he confirmed 10x Xavier when not at his best?


Yeah, it was stated in Legion Quest:

http://i.imgur.com/Ip3KekQ.jpg?1

Edit: And back in Legion Quest, he still had only 4 personalities which he had under his control: Telepathy, Telekinesis, Pyrokinesis, and time manipulation which he developed in that arc. Later on when he returned in New Mutants v3, he had thousands of personalities (but they weren't under David's control; when he switches to a specific power, that personality which is responsible for the power, takes control of Legion).

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A focused legion is a serious threat i'd love to see him well written


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Cassandra Nova, maybe


Probably the best bet. Beyond her, Jean as WPotC could certainly do it. Shaman Nate Grey - possibly. Classic Strange w/ Eye perhaps as well, though it's pretty much a tossup.

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Probably the best bet. Beyond her, Jean as WPotC could certainly do it. Shaman Nate Grey - possibly. Classic Strange w/ Eye perhaps as well, though it's pretty much a tossup.


Nova is that good


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A focused legion is a serious threat i'd love to see him well written


Id recommend reading the recent X-Men Legacy series (Vol. 2) in case you haven't.

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At his best, meaning the universe remaking best?

Nope, I doubt any telepath less than someone like Galactus, Odin or the Celestials could get the job done.


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Nova is that good
Well, this only matters depending on how much weight you give to offhand comments, but:

Cassandra Nova casually overpowered Xavier while Xavier was wearing Cerebra.

Cerebra was stated, by Beast (iirc) to increase psi power to the power of 10.

Legion's power levels obviously fluctuate ridiculously, but for what it's worth, he was once stated to be 10x Xavier psionically.

5 x 10 = 50

5^10 = 9765625

Cassandra Nova has a lot of other impressive and certainly cooler feats but it stands to reason that if she is that much more powerful than Xavier, then perhaps she stands the best shot of getting the better of Legion psionically, at least until we get to Trans+ telepaths.

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Originally posted by Existere
Well, this only matters depending on how much weight you give to offhand comments, but:

Cassandra Nova casually overpowered Xavier while Xavier was wearing Cerebra.

Cerebra was stated, by Beast (iirc) to increase psi power to the power of 10.

Legion's power levels obviously fluctuate ridiculously, but for what it's worth, he was once stated to be 10x Xavier psionically.

5 x 10 = 50

5^10 = 9765625

Cassandra Nova has a lot of other impressive and certainly cooler feats but it stands to reason that if she is that much more powerful than Xavier, then perhaps she stands the best shot of getting the better of Legion psionically, at least until we get to Trans+ telepaths.


Great. Post


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Originally posted by Existere
Well, this only matters depending on how much weight you give to offhand comments, but:

Cassandra Nova casually overpowered Xavier while Xavier was wearing Cerebra.

Cerebra was stated, by Beast (iirc) to increase psi power to the power of 10.

Legion's power levels obviously fluctuate ridiculously, but for what it's worth, he was once stated to be 10x Xavier psionically.

5 x 10 = 50

5^10 = 9765625

Cassandra Nova has a lot of other impressive and certainly cooler feats but it stands to reason that if she is that much more powerful than Xavier, then perhaps she stands the best shot of getting the better of Legion psionically, at least until we get to Trans+ telepaths.


I'm sorry but where did your base exponent come from? I mean where did you get that number, because I think that I may have missed a step in your calculations.


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I'm sorry but where did your base exponent come from? I mean where did you get that number, because I think that I may have missed a step in your calculations.
The number 5? I just picked it. The point is that if Cerebra really does increase Xavier's power exponentially, then smiling while destroying him while he wears Cerebra is an absolutely ridiculous feat, and reasonably beyond a basic multiplication of Xavier's power.

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