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Loki vs. Vulcan

Who wins?

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Loki should win, but Vulcan has shown he can manipulate magic before

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Loki

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it all depends on if he can manipulate magic... we know his energy manip is out of control ... does vulcan have any tp feats on loki's lvl? that could be a big turn as well loki's tp is monstrous so ill take loki unless someone has some info i dont have that vulcan can manip magic

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Vulcan doesnt have TP on Loki's level.

Loki has got to much on the table for Vulcan to deal with, he goes down hard.

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Originally posted by yaadaveyaa
it all depends on if he can manipulate magic... we know his energy manip is out of control ... does vulcan have any tp feats on loki's lvl? that could be a big turn as well loki's tp is monstrous so ill take loki unless someone has some info i dont have that vulcan can manip magic

Vulcan has resisted tp before iirc it's I'm the respect thread.

Vulcan did manipulate Mage Adam Warlocks magic , and with that powe Warlock had merged 2 timelines together

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Loki clearly wins.

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Vulcan has resisted tp before iirc it's I'm the respect thread.

Vulcan did manipulate Mage Adam Warlocks magic , and with that powe Warlock had merged 2 timelines together

yea if he can manip magic loki is in trouble ... hes a direct counter to someone like loki then

Jul 2nd, 2014 03:24 PM

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It can be easily resolved by driving him senseless
But yes, if vulcan can manip then it goes either way.

Im going with Loki though.

Serious though these Loki & GR threads need to stop.

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Jul 2nd, 2014 03:34 PM

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Warlock used "quantum magic", I'm not sure if that's the same form of magic that, say, Strange/Asgardians (eldritch) or Scarlet Witch/Chthon (chaos magic) use. It was left a bit ambiguous. I don't know if Vulcan could, say, remove Mjolnir's enchantments with a gesture or something like that, though he could possibly manipulate a bolt of Thor's lightning, for example. I don't know if he'd be able to just cancel Loki's spell casting.

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Vulcan mind raped Rachel Grey iirc

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Loki no sells telepathy attacks

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Lol that point was to show Vulcan is no mug in the TP department.

I get from your various post in Loki threads you think he's unbeatable

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No hes beatable.

This can go either way.

But the loki & GR threads need to stop.

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Jul 2nd, 2014 05:53 PM

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Vulcan wins. The same way he did Warlock.

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Vulcan mind raped Rachel Grey iirc

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Well, I guess won't get an answer on that. I ask because Rachel didn't actually try to mindrape anyone. She was ambushed and taken out of the fight before it really ever started. It was heavily implied that Rachel would have been a huge threat to Vulcan throughout her involvement in all of his stupid stories.

After that initial showing, Vulcan usually had Oracle around to block out Rachel's telepathy. She did better against Gladiator, stalemated Vulcan sans telepathy, and was often conveniently "occupied" whenever fights with Vulcan happened during that whole Shiar stuff. I felt she could beat him alone honestly, which is why the writers had to deal with her in some other way.

Oh, and the Emma thing is really misleading. It was one of those "His power level is over 9000!" moments that established him as a threat since it was his early appearance. He didn't actually launch an attack at her, and he hasn't done anything similar that I recall.

I can post scans if anyone has questions about anything.