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DCnU Captain Atom vs WBH

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Cap wins as long as it doesn't become a slugfest

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Captain atom takes out the gamma radiation from hukk and reverts him back to banner, its that simple.

silver surfer has done this before and we have also seem new 52 captain atom absorb energy and radiation.


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Captain atom stomps easily, you could not win the argument in the last thread so you made a spite thread, good job.


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Captain atom stomps easily, you could not win the argument in the last thread so you made a spite thread, good job.


There was a huge difference in WB Hulk, and the Hulk at regular levels. Draining him would be impossible, because he was actively tapping into the gamma force. He was able to do this once he underwent the meditation to tap into his power on Sakaar. This was during the Planet Hulk saga. Once he got to a certain level (WB Hulk level) draining him was nearly impossible because it wasn't the Hulk that was being drained, but instead Arm'Cheddon was tapping into the same power that the Hulk was taking his power from. Captain Atom would essentially be drinking from the same ocean of power without being able to stop the Hulk from drinking from it as well.

Betty was an energy sponge type as well, but without the Wishing Wells enchantment she would have capped at her max, and began to overheat like Rulk once did when he fought both the Savage Hulk, and Thor. Captain Atom has a limit to the amount of power that he can consume. If he can manage to contain more power than WB Hulk, he could win. Draining the Hulk dry, is out of the question though.


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There was a huge difference in WB Hulk, and the Hulk at regular levels. Draining him would be impossible, because he was actively tapping into the gamma force. He was able to do this once he underwent the meditation to tap into his power on Sakaar. This was during the Planet Hulk saga. Once he got to a certain level (WB Hulk level) draining him was nearly impossible because it wasn't the Hulk that was being drained, but instead Arm'Cheddon was tapping into the same power that the Hulk was taking his power from. Captain Atom would essentially be drinking from the same ocean of power without being able to stop the Hulk from drinking from it as well.

Betty was an energy sponge type as well, but without the Wishing Wells enchantment she would have capped at her max, and began to overheat like Rulk once did when he fought both the Savage Hulk, and Thor. Captain Atom has a limit to the amount of power that he can consume. If he can manage to contain more power than WB Hulk, he could win. Draining the Hulk dry, is out of the question though.



Atom is stated to have zero limit, he is energy itself, he could go back in time and make hulk never gain gamma powers. Even if he were not able to do any of that(which he can) he is faster than the flash in both reaction and actual speed.

I have already stated multiple ways cap could beat them but i am just curious as to cap overloading, he has not overloaded in the new 52 so im just going to assume you are making assumptions.

if he has overloaded in the new 52 it does not support his other scans of him not being able to overload(and also give me the feats if he has).

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It's all in his bio. The Hulk gets his power from a source. This is why the Green Scar was larger, heavier, and more powerful than any other incarnation of the character. This is also why War Hulk was one of the most powerful Hulk's to ever be seen. The Celestial attachments that he had rigged to him allowed him to more efficiently draw more power from the Gamma Force. The Green Scar just showed us that he didn't need the Celestial tech to to become as powerful as he did. After all the Green Scar was even more powerful than War Hulk. Or that he was capable of attaining higher levels of power than War Hulk was shown to have done on panel.


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Atom is stated to have zero limit, he is energy itself, he could go back in time and make hulk never gain gamma powers. Even if he were not able to do any of that(which he can) he is faster than the flash in both reaction and actual speed.

I have already stated multiple ways cap could beat them but i am just curious as to cap overloading, he has not overloaded in the new 52 so im just going to assume you are making assumptions.

if he has overloaded in the new 52 it does not support his other scans of him not being able to overload(and also give me the feats if he has).


If he went back in time he would self BFR himself, and the battle would be over. The Hulk was also stated to have no limit by the Beyonder. They all have a limit. Some characters just haven't been shown one yet, but they all have one. This is why I said that Nate could win. It's not a certainty though.


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If he went back in time he would self BFR himself, and the battle would be over. The Hulk was also stated to have no limit by the Beyonder. They all have a limit. Some characters just haven't been shown one yet, but they all have one. This is why I said that Nate could win. It's not a certainty though.


Maybe he could take hulk back in time with him(so technically they are still fighting and its not bfr) and kill that times banner and that would make hulk never exist.

Either way hulk has no way of hurting atom and we both agree he wins.

Atom literally has too many tools and he is way too fast for hulk and he cannot be hurt by physical means.

New 52 cap atom is a badass.

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Hulk stomps.


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Hulk stomps.


And you have read zero captain atom.

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And you have read zero captain atom.


Lol...you didn't even know about his run in with Firestorm. No room to talk buddy (even though I've read every last one of his appearances and posted all of his showings on this site).


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Lol...you didn't even know about his run in with Firestorm. No room to talk buddy (even though I've read every last one of his appearances and posted all of his showings on this site).


His run in with firestorm i assume was in firestorms own book(and no one has posted scans of this run in) but caps power lvl does not agree with being overloaded because he has been stated to have no limit and he absorbed a sh*t ton of versions of himself from other universes.

He is a reality warper and he energy manipulator, he will absorb hulks energy and or change his physiology.

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absorb his radiation*


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His run in with firestorm i assume was in firestorms own book(and no one has posted scans of this run in) but caps power lvl does not agree with being overloaded because he has been stated to have no limit and he absorbed a sh*t ton of versions of himself from other universes.

He is a reality warper and he energy manipulator, he will absorb hulks energy and or change his physiology.


You see, this is where you are failing. You're using bios and statements without presentations. Also, Hulks power has been stated as limitless...including his strength. Hell, Pak said Hulk can destroy a Galaxy with a punch. You see where statement get you?

As for the fight, Hulk has fought through all of that before. A weaker Hulk. Who is the most powerful person Atom has warped?

Atom isn't absorbing his power.


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You see, this is where you are failing. You're using bios and statements without presentations. Also, Hulks power has been stated as limitless...including his strength. Hell, Pak said Hulk can destroy a Galaxy with a punch. You see where statement get you?

As for the fight, Hulk has fought through all of that before. A weaker Hulk. Who is the most powerful person Atom has warped?


Not a bio statement, it was stated in atoms own book by scientists, most powerful does not matter when it comes to reality warping, he is faster than the flash and he can travel through time along with the fact he has given people powers and brought people back from the dead, he could easily just make hulk not exist.

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Not a bio statement, it was stated in atoms own book by scientists, most powerful does not matter when it comes to reality warping, he is faster than the flash and he can travel through time along with the fact he has given people powers and brought people back from the dead, he could easily just make hulk not exist.


If he goes back in time, that's self bfr.

You're using statements. Captain Atom would lose in a statement war with the Hulk.

When it comes to warping, especially against a guy who has fought through it, it does matter. Now again, who is the most powerful being Atom has warped?

Lol...Prove that he is faster than Flash.


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This guy's using comic vine way of debate lol.

Dcnu C. Atom so far lacks the combat feat to win despite having a good powerset.


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