The Justice League (G.L Guy Gardner, Blue Beetle, Booster Gold, Maxima, Fire, Ice, and Bloodwynd) responds to a emergency call which leads them to a confrontation with the Doomsday monster.
In the aftermath of Doomsday defeating the Justice League, it leads to a showdown with Superman.
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Blue Marvel's Feat
Blue Marvel took on the Avengers team of ( Ms. Marvel, Ares, She-Hulk, Wonder Man, Iron MAn)
In turn leads Blue Marvel to a derict confrontation with Sentry.
Last edited by Supermex on Aug 13th, 2015 at 08:42 AM
Doomsday's feat was far more impressive, because he actually defeated and killed the golden boy of DC. Sure, it didn't last long, but imagine if Thor or Hulk had a storyline which ended with their death, at the hands of someone who physically beat them to death - no energy drain, no exotic weaponry, just sheer punching. That would be impressive as phuck.
How the hell can you compare these two feats when the motivation was completely different? No one in the Marvel fight was trying to KILL the other, nor was Blue Marvel a mindless, soulless beast who needed to die by any means necessary.
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Imagine Hulk fighting someone, punching so hard they break their hands....then finally managing to defeat them, but in the process, gets 'killed' (neither one of them really 'died', as such). That would be incredibly impressive, I'd argue that due to it being DC's golden boy, it would be even more impressive.
THE cash cow. THE benchmark of physical strength in DC - physically beaten to death, whilst he himself was breaking his hands punching him. You're telling me that's less impressive than two relative nobodies having yet another run of the mill fight?
All of which provides a separate context. He's and ungodly powerful mindless slaughter machine that couldn't hold back if he wanted to so why is his feat impressive?
Does anyone other than Blue Area Vet see the difference here? Adam sat there pleading with the Avengers, and as such wasn't fighting to the best of his ability. Doomsday was out to kill anything and everyone. Things would have gone differently if Adam was out for blood. Context?
Not sure how Doomsday being out for blood takes anything away.
Superman was also out for blood. Was doing anything he could to stop Doomsday. And was killed. No one before or after has done the same. am also mystified how Superman hurting his hands punching Doomsday is lessened by Doomsday's bloodlust. Whether he was or not, Superman hurting himself punching ANYONE is impressive. Imagine if Hulk (used here because he's the elite strong guy in Marvel) hurt his hands punching someone - and that someone was still standing. That's pretty impressive.
Next, was Sentry/the Avengers doing everything they can to stop BM? Were they bloodluste? If not, you can use the exact same argument, and say that they weren't fighting to the best of their abilities either.
They were not fighting at their best either. Sentry dropped his guard which allowed the hit into space (back the next page and also to note negative energy was leaking into the universe which weakens sentry). Prior to that the team were working over blue pretty good.
So was the Sentry weakened when he fought Anti-Man? he needed help in that short run in, and was Anti-Man more powerful than Adam? My entire point is that this thread has two showings that aren't comparable in the least. This shouldn't be difficult to see. Doomsday was out to kill, Superman was out to kill, while none of the guys on the Marvel side was actually going for the kill. Adam was pleading, and debating with the Avengers while they were trying to take him down. Do you see the difference? In other words you can't compare the two feats. Not to mention that DOS happened at a time that characters were portrayed to be weaker than they were when Adam debuted. I mean Superman was floored by a gas station explosion.
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lol that jla line-up was more powerful than that avengers line-up. not sure how could even be questioned. bloodwyn, a high level gl and maxima would EACH be the most powerful member of that avengers line up. i'd g so far as to say max could likely solo that avengers team. superman level strength, ferrokinesis, and near xavier level psi powers (tp AND tk). then there was the utter ease with which dd cut them down. they were, literally, insignificant. max did the best but was never, even for a moment, an actual threat. then there is the fact that before he ever got to earth dd decimated an entire CORPS of gl's and killed a guardian. add to that the fact that dd was still WEAK from his only recent revival and, well, there really isn't a way to frame a reasonable argument for bm.
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