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New 52 Superman vs Superboy Prime

It popped in my mind as I was browsing the new 52 Superman vs pre-Flashpoint Superman thread.

Figured it's pretty close.

Any takers?


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I don't think it's close. Why do you think so?


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Nah, Prime is still well beyond Superman.


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lmfao!! you gotta be kidding op. superboy prime, has greater striking, greater durability, greater combat speed, AND is MASSIVELY above him in lifting strength, has great neck durability feats, is sexier and on top of that has wrecked a superior superman in combat already.


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no expression this thread.


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If you used exclusively high end feats for Superman, sure. But I wouldn't see it as close on average.


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I don't think it's close. Why do you think so?
I see the Superman that went up against Doomsday and ripped him in half as being able to put up a competitive fight, to say the least - the same Doomsday who at his weakest has feats like breaking the Phantom Zone, brutalizing Wonder Woman and breaking her arms, nobody being able to fight him for more than a few moments etc. all of them in Superboy Prime's ballpark themselves.

That's a relative performance that's hard to beat.


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I see the Superman that went up against Doomsday and ripped him in half as being able to put up a competitive fight, to say the least - the same Doomsday who at his weakest has feats like breaking the Phantom Zone, brutalizing Wonder Woman and breaking her arms, nobody being able to fight him for more than a few moments etc. all of them in Superboy Prime's ballpark themselves.

That's a relative performance that's hard to beat.

Yeah, that's a monstrous feat by any means.

Then again, I've been told Doomsday was weaksauce somehow, so who knows?


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, is sexier




gross.


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so you think 52 superman is def>pre-boot phil? not sure i still see this as all that close...


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Yeah, that's a monstrous feat by any means.

Then again, I've been told Doomsday was weaksauce somehow, so who knows?


Marvel fanboys wouldn't stop dickriding Sentry for ripping a Mid-Tier like Ares in half, but Superman rips in half someone far stronger, not to mention the energy drain thing, and "it's a good feat?" Yeahhhhhhhhhh.


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so you think 52 superman is def>pre-boot phil? not sure i still see this as all that close...
In strength, definitely. The dude started off as planet benching Earth for 5 days casually - then went on to surpass those 'limits' [against H'el], then went on to surpass them ridiculously so even more against Doomsday [the story made it a point that he became more powerful than ever before when he killed Doomsday]. I know that space cheese isn't the way to go, but preboot Superman was consistently below the strength level new 52 Superman is shown as casually at. It wouldn't be so damning if it wasn't the same character -- the intention and direction is pretty clear.

As for the other attributes? Pre-52 Superman is vastly more skilled, more experienced, has better heat vision to bring a bit more balance.

The problem is that we haven't had many ocassions to really see DCnU Superman cut loose - the prior version had plenty, but on the few he has [like against Doomsday], he's been massively impressive.

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Yeah, that's a monstrous feat by any means.

Then again, I've been told Doomsday was weaksauce somehow, so who knows?
Imagine a being appearing and breaking Thor's hands, roflstomping him. Now, imagine that being grows even stronger, and it's said nobody on Earth has a chance against him in an extended fight.

Now imagine Hulk turning up and ripping him in half.

The only way that could be worse is if it was Superman.
And it is.


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In strength, definitely. The dude started off as planet benching Earth for 5 days casually - then went on to surpass those 'limits' [against H'el], then went on to surpass them ridiculously so even more against Doomsday [the story made it a point that he became more powerful than ever before when he killed Doomsday]. I know that space cheese isn't the way to go, but preboot Superman was consistently below the strength level new 52 Superman is shown as casually at. It wouldn't be so damning if it wasn't the same character -- the intention and direction is pretty clear.

As for the other attributes? Pre-52 Superman is vastly more skilled, more experienced, has better heat vision to bring a bit more balance.

The problem is that we haven't had many ocassions to really see DCnU Superman cut loose - the prior version had plenty, but on the few he has [like against Doomsday], he's been massively impressive.

Imagine a being appearing and breaking Thor's hands, roflstomping him. Now, imagine that being grows even stronger, and it's said nobody on Earth has a chance against him in an extended fight.

Now imagine Hulk turning up and ripping him in half.

The only way that could be worse is if it was Superman.
And it is.

Not to mention Superman was weakened and Doomsday had absorbed that power.


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Not to mention Superman was weakened and Doomsday had absorbed that power.
abhil, i thought i knew you better than this?? You know full well that prime would MURDER superman.
I have no idea what popped in the thread starter mind to even post this slaughter as if superman had a chance ( well in his mind about superman i understand ) but please dont give even a hint of support to this ultra-wanking. sad


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N52 before his nerf wasn't far off preboot Superman, and as much as Prime gets wanked, I don't think he's the be all and end all he'd made out to be.

I think Prime wins, but not remotely easily.


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N52 before his nerf wasn't far off preboot Superman, and as much as Prime gets wanked, I don't think he's the be all and end all he'd made out to be.

I think Prime wins, but not remotely easily.
You actually think Prime would struggle killing N52 superman??


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Don't understand. Hulk fought a being that was twice as strong as Thor (during the beginning of the battle)...by the end of the battle that power was tripled and Hulk still punched his head off but no one seems to dwell on it like the people that is clinging to the Superman and Doomsday fight. Don't get it. Add in space cheese fts, your average Hulk should be operating at abstract levels. Hell, Hulk almost overpowered an abstract recently. He will remain at his tier just like Superman should as well. With that said, even though Superman and your average Hulk have some insane strength fts, Prime still merk them.


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N52 before his nerf wasn't far off preboot Superman, and as much as Prime gets wanked, I don't think he's the be all and end all he'd made out to be.

I think Prime wins, but not remotely easily.

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Don't understand. Hulk fought a being that was twice as strong as Thor (during the beginning of the battle)...by the end of the battle that power was tripled and Hulk still punched his head off but no one seems to dwell on it like the people that is clinging to the Superman and Doomsday fight. Don't get it. Add in space cheese fts, your average Hulk should be operating at abstract levels. Hell, Hulk almost overpowered an abstract recently. He will remain at his tier just like Superman should as well. With that said, even though Superman and your average Hulk have some insane strength fts, Prime still merk them.

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