The Weird. Even if Kyle is above Guy, he's not THAT above Guy for how easily Weird beat Guy. And if this is rookie Kyle, then I'd feel he'd do even worse. Kyle also had mixed success against bricks in those days, and The Weird definitely is Top-Tier there.
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Yep!! Was able to manipulate the energy Doctor Fate was conjuring. Well, he(Weird) said it was energy. He also IIRC one-shot J'onn, and he beat Captain Atom off-panel. It was clear it was a quick KO, but we don't see what happened, if it was physical or energy based or what.
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Kind of silly to lowball The Weird based on a single showing that can be easily explained:
a.) He expended a good deal of energy against the Macrolatt he's just beaten moments beforehand.
b.) J'onn went out of his way to explain that he was only able to do that because The Weird's guard was completely down.
c.) Even if you exclude a & b, that showing is still a massive low-end outlier, given The Weird's other feats.
As I recall, weird also wasn't really a top end physical powerhouse, compared to say, Bizarro.
In theory, Weird can absorb Kyles energy.. In theory, Kyle can also control Weirds energies, as he has with other energy beings.
Or, he could use his ring constructs to ambush him. That was actually his go to tactic pre Emerald Rebirth, firing off a beam far off into the distance, and making it loop around at the blind side. (Further, his accuracy was good enough to fire a beam down someone's throat, creating an emp pulse from inside them..)
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Never let anyone else define you. Don't be a jerk just to be a jerk, but if you are expressing your true inner feelings and beliefs, or at least trying to express that inner child, and everyone gets pissed off about it, never NEVER apologize for it. Let them think what they want, let them define you in their narrow little minds while they suppress every last piece of them just to keep a friend that never liked them for themselves in the first place.
I don't know much about Weird so I can only answer if Kyle wins via getting the answer to a single question: Is Weird more powerful or less powerful then Deathstroke?
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It was a joke. The Identity Crisis showing was of course total bunk.
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By an energy being, no less. Kyle's constructs were being manipulated, so he reached out into her and manipulated her body.
But even if we assumed that's not possible on Weird, he could certainly physically defeat him. Weird was as susceptible to physical damage as anybody, and Kyles defeated much more durable characters (Like Darkseid's illegitamate son, Grayven.)
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Never let anyone else define you. Don't be a jerk just to be a jerk, but if you are expressing your true inner feelings and beliefs, or at least trying to express that inner child, and everyone gets pissed off about it, never NEVER apologize for it. Let them think what they want, let them define you in their narrow little minds while they suppress every last piece of them just to keep a friend that never liked them for themselves in the first place.
Plus on a serious note..Kyle did f*ck up Superman's face with energy blasts that one time right? It's true Superman wasn't exactly fighting back, but that wouldn't really lower his durability.
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Are you referring to the stunt he pulled against Tangent Flash? If so, that's when he was Ion. Far cry from your 'average' Kyle.
The Weird shrugged off punches from Superman, and delivered punches of equal magnitude in return. He also physically owned J'onn with a single strike. IOW, it's not easy to overpower him. At all.
You're trying to act like that one low-end outlier(which can be explained) is the rule. It isn't.
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Feb 16th, 2016 02:42 AM
Bluewaterrider: "I'm surprised that a Skyfather like Zeus defeated Hulk when Zeus' Top-Tier son Hercules has lost to Hulk."
