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Chaos King Hercules vs Promethean Giant Geridath

Maybe a good fight maybe not.

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Not sure what "Chaos King Hercules" is? We talking SuperGod Herc?

If so, he stomps.

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I thought the reborn Hercules was supposed to be around Sky-father level.

Edit: Never-mind It's said "All-father," not Sky-father.

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I thought the reborn Hercules was supposed to be around Sky-father level.

Edit: Never-mind It's said "All-father," not Sky-father.

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The title is sort of meaningless. Even Odin's been called "All Father".

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How powerful do you think Hercules was?

Aug 19th, 2016 07:52 PM

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How powerful do you think Hercules was?

He was a multiversal power. After CK destroyed the overwhelming majority of the multiverse, CW Hercules restored it.

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He was a multiversal power. After CK destroyed the overwhelming majority of the multiverse, CW Hercules restored it.

He gave up his power to restore the universe, not the multiverse.

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Source: Chaos War #5.

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It was stated in the arc that CK destroyed the majority of the multiverse and herc restored everything that CK consumed.

Oblivion further confirmed it in Thor annual. I guess the term universe was used interchangeably with the multiverse in this instance.

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It was stated in the arc that CK destroyed the majority of the multiverse

This is correct.

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and herc restored everything that CK consumed.

I don't remember ever reading that.

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Oblivion further confirmed it in Thor annual.

No. The Mighty Thor Annual #1 only confirmed that the Chaos King sought to destroy the multiverse, it said nothing about Hercules restoring it.

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I don't remember ever reading that.

It was shown on panel how he restored everything back, including Nightmare's realm which is a separate universe and is as big as 616.

It was also stated in a handbook iirc.

Edit: Scan.

http://imgur.com/fx9mc2f

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No. The Mighty Thor Annual #1 only confirmed that the Chaos King sought to destroy the multiverse, it said nothing about Hercules restoring it.

It said that the multiverse came close to ending.

So Herc only restored one universe and the rest of the multiverse just magically re-appeared, is what you're saying?

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It was shown on panel how he restored everything back, including Nightmare's realm which is a separate universe and is as big as 616.

The Dream Dimension didn't look to be any different than Hades or any other hidden realm the Chaos King invaded.

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It was also stated in a handbook iirc.

I'd like to see it.

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So Herc only restored one universe and the rest of the multiverse just magically re-appeared, is what you're saying?

I was under the impression that the rest of the part of the multiverse that was destroyed remained destroyed. Alternatively that the word "multiverse" as it was used in the contexts of these stories was just the 616 universe and its various hidden realms.

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Cool. Can I get the full text?

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The Dream Dimension didn't look to be any different than Hades or any other hidden realm the Chaos King invaded.

What do you mean by it not being different? It's established to exist outside the 616 reality and Herc restored it.

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I was under the impression that the rest of the part of the multiverse that was destroyed remained destroyed. Alternatively that the word "multiverse" as it was used in the contexts of these stories was just the 616 universe and its various hidden realms.

So you're saying that Marvel doesn't have an official multiverse (the infinite parallel realities) since Chaos War?

Come on, man. You know that's not true.

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Cool. Can I get the full text?

http://imgur.com/bBQNrlQ

It's in the paragraph right before "LEGACY" highlighted in red.

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What do you mean by it not being different? It's established to exist outside the 616 reality and Herc restored it.

The Dream Dimension is not a different universe with a number attached to it. It's as much part of the 616 as Asgard or Olympus.

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So you're saying that Marvel doesn't have an official multiverse (the infinite parallel realities) since Chaos War?

Come on, man. You know that's not true.

The Chaos King never destroyed the multiverse, only a part of it.

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http://imgur.com/bBQNrlQ

It's in the paragraph right before "LEGACY" highlighted in red.

Thanks.

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The Dream Dimension is not a different universe with a number attached to it. It's as much part of the 616 as Asgard or Olympus.

Right, it is not an alternate universe with a different designation, however, it is still a separate universe, located in a separate space-time continuum which is as large as the mainstream 616 reality.

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The Chaos King never destroyed the multiverse, only a part of it.

Cho stated that CK had already destroyed 98% of the multiverse (further confirmed by Oblivion later on). By the time Herc and CK confronted each other, only Earth's solar system remained. So if Herc did indeed only one universe, Marvel would have stayed as a sinlge universe.

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Cho stated that CK had already destroyed 98% of the multiverse (further confirmed by Oblivion later on). By the time Herc and CK confronted each other, only Earth's solar system remained. So if Herc did indeed only one universe, Marvel would have stayed as a sinlge universe.

Hey operator, Chaos King does not destroyed only the universe?

Because in this manual says universe (like Reality-616):

http://imgur.com/a/4PNMY

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Herc wins.

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Hey operator, Chaos King does not destroyed only the universe?

Because in this manual says universe (like Reality-616):

http://imgur.com/a/4PNMY

That handbook was released at the same time when Chaos War concluded which means it isn't updated till the end of the event. And the thor annual was released a year after that, which confirmed that the event was multiversal. The handbook couldn't have taken that into account.

But even if we're willing to use it as genuine, the handbook should be used as a secondary source. On panel comes first.

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