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Midnighter vs Fantomex

Which of these guys who would totally lose to Iron Fist wins?


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Fantomex wins.

Midnighter is good, but Fantomex has misdirected Celestial tech, I.e. Apocalypse's ship. Which I hold in higher esteem than Bendix's tech.


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Fantomex wins.

Midnighter is good, but Fantomex has misdirected Celestial tech, I.e. Apocalypse's ship. Which I hold in higher esteem than Bendix's tech.


Check out my Bendix's thread!! Anyway, I think Mids has a chance if he can KO Fantomex before he can get his misdirection off. Midnighter is faster, plus his battle computer has prevented mid level telepathic attacks getting in his head and The Eminence of Blades lie power, too.

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Isn't that misdirect instantaneous


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yeah and with the starting distance no way nighter could ko first. doubt he could even if they started closer. fantomex is pretty beastly physically.

this is weird though--the computer would let him know he was being misdirected (or was going to be) but he would still have no counter. even if he...ignored the misdirect, there is still no way he would be able to see/find fantomex before charlie put a bullet in his head. least i don't think there is any way. /shrug


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^right

M-Nighter pc hardware in keeps telepaths out. But he has been mind controlled if the hardware gets compromised, as was the case when he got...well mind controlled.

Misdirection would do just that, since it affects computer hardware and organic minds alike. There is no escaping the fact.

Not to mention that, Fantomex has the physical stats to compete with Midnighter.

So yeah. Fantomex takes this match more often than not.


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Wait, Fantomex is physically on par with DCnU Midnighter? What was all that noise in the Mr. X thread then?

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Yeah, what has Fantomex done that was on par with Midnighter???

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If it was Pre-retcon Beyonder in place of Fantomex you'd still ask that question, Prep


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Don't be silly. Midnighter can't compete with his 80's look. wink

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Yeah...I haven't seen Fantomex do the things Mids has, physically.

Not that he needs to, in order to win.


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As far as I know Fantomex is enhanced human. I think he takes this though.


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As far as I know Fantomex is enhanced human. I think he takes this though.


Yeah, but is he enhanced like Midnighter?

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Yeah, but is he enhanced like Midnighter?


I don't think he's on that level. He has amazing tolerance for pain though.

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well, physically he's taken on deathlok units and done very well. its hard to define enhanced. guys like bats and dick and dd ALL are miles past what regular humans can do. fantomex is the same way. his 3 brains allow for unpredictable behovious (which would be interesting against nighter). he has a small healing factor and some very good durability feats like surviving being completely gutted by logan and handling thousands of volts due to his special nervous system. physically he's def well above human, but as far above as nighter? doubtful. but still, he is pretty beastly and in straight h2h, with his multiple brains, it wouldn't be easy for midnighter by any stretch.


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Like I said. Fantomex has the physicality to compete with Nighter. Nighter is not going to speed blitz or overwelm Fantomex in from the get go.


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Well, I've long suspected DCnU Midnighter was being overblown, but I don't really follow him, so I can't say. If it's true that freaking Fantomex can be a tough fight for him physically, Mr. X should whoop Mid's ass tbh.

I just don't know what to make of him. People say he's taking it to heralds, but he's always matched against streets on the forums...

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well, physically he's taken on deathlok units and done very well. its hard to define enhanced. guys like bats and dick and dd ALL are miles past what regular humans can do. fantomex is the same way. his 3 brains allow for unpredictable behovious (which would be interesting against nighter). he has a small healing factor and some very good durability feats like surviving being completely gutted by logan and handling thousands of volts due to his special nervous system. physically he's def well above human, but as far above as nighter? doubtful. but still, he is pretty beastly and in straight h2h, with his multiple brains, it wouldn't be easy for midnighter by any stretch.


No doubt, but that's nothing to what Midnighter has done. In Stormwatch, Midnighter was on the lab table being operated on with his body scattered throughout the table. And this was for hours. He has a higher tolerance for pain.

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Well, I've long suspected DCnU Midnighter was being overblown, but I don't really follow him, so I can't say. If it's true that freaking Fantomex can be a tough fight for him physically, Mr. X should whoop Mid's ass tbh.

I just don't know what to make of him. People say he's taking it to heralds, but he's always matched against streets on the forums...


Look at the scans I provided. Don't assume anything, without reading the material.

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I didn't assume anything. I said if what they're saying is true.

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