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Do you believe Black panther became less skilled

i see recent black panther comics and not good man. he is getting beat up and captured every next issue. ever since he got more powers his skills took a dive. now why? is it the wolverine effect? the more powers and protections you got the less skilled you get? where are his top notch skills? i dont know man i dont see it anymore. its like he lost the will to fight. i think top street guys today might woop his ass like daredevil and Cap without too much trouble. the way he is portrayed today. but what do you guys think?

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He's still as skilled as he ever was. The difference is that his books aren't team books (in which the super smarts martial artist needs to get wanked in order to look impressive compared to the high heralds that comprise the team). Also, different writers have different interpretations of how powerful or skilled a character is. Every character is supposed to struggle a little in their own book, if they didn't, it wouldn't be interesting.


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Well said by Deathslash. Besides, Dareangel your Daredevil is up their with Carver's Hulk and Abby's Superman.

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I thought it was his Judge Dredd? wink

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Every character is supposed to struggle a little in their own book, if they didn't, it wouldn't be interesting.

So true. Some posters/actual creators dont seem to get that.


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Every character is supposed to struggle a little in their own book


yeah but the question is who makes them sweat. black panther is made to sweat by average gang mambers. hitting him with the back of an assault rifle and knocking him out. capturing him every next issue. batman would never fall ot that.

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Well said by Deathslash. Besides, Dareangel your Daredevil is up their with Carver's Hulk and Abby's Superman.


i dont think so erm

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He's higher.


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^^^D'OH!

Everyone has favorites, though. Dare isnt obnoxious about his.


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Re: Do you believe Black panther became less skilled

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i see recent black panther comics and not good man. he is getting beat up and captured every next issue. ever since he got more powers his skills took a dive. now why? is it the wolverine effect? the more powers and protections you got the less skilled you get? where are his top notch skills? i dont know man i dont see it anymore. its like he lost the will to fight. i think top street guys today might woop his ass like daredevil and Cap without too much trouble. the way he is portrayed today. but what do you guys think?


I haven't been keeping up with Coates Series since issue 4. What happened? I mean in that same series he took an RPG to the chest. And I still have him as the best street leveler under Spider-Man.

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^^^D'OH!

Everyone has favorites, though. Dare isnt obnoxious about his.


Thanks smile

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I haven't been keeping up with Coates Series since issue 4. What happened? I mean in that same series he took an RPG to the chest. And I still have him as the best street leveler under Spider-Man.


he is supposed to be upgraded but it seems to work the opposite when he is facing average gang members. he gets hit a lot and even knocked out by some random guy hitting him with the back of an assault rifle. i mean black panther is not suppose to get knocked out from that. hell no.

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he is supposed to be upgraded but it seems to work the opposite when he is facing average gang members. he gets hit a lot and even knocked out by some random guy hitting him with the back of an assault rifle. i mean black panther is not suppose to get knocked out from that. hell no.


You're right, he shouldn't. What issue are you on?

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He's still as skilled as he ever was. The difference is that his books aren't team books (in which the super smarts martial artist needs to get wanked in order to look impressive compared to the high heralds that comprise the team). Also, different writers have different interpretations of how powerful or skilled a character is. Every character is supposed to struggle a little in their own book, if they didn't, it wouldn't be interesting.


This ☝. If he waltzed thru every threat noone would read his stories. In order to make it compelling there needs to be a struggle.


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he is supposed to be upgraded but it seems to work the opposite when he is facing average gang members. he gets hit a lot and even knocked out by some random guy hitting him with the back of an assault rifle. i mean black panther is not suppose to get knocked out from that. hell no.

Where was he koed by assault rifle?

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This ☝. If he waltzed thru every threat noone would read his stories. In order to make it compelling there needs to be a struggle.


yes but again, it all depends on who is making him strugle. imagine if thor would be knocked out by some random thug hitting him with a baseball bat. would you say cool he has to strugle? black panther should strugle sure, but not at the hands of the people that are making him strugle recently.

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Found it. Black Panther 6.

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LMAO.


yep thats the one. there are more cases where he gets hit by random thugs. black panther is suppose to walk thru them like toys. in the art itself he even looks smaller and slimmer than usual. i think the writers in his recent portrayels see him as the slim agile street leveler type, robin, nightwing and daredevil type. black panther is the wakandian version of captain america he is suppose to toss all those guys like ragdolls.

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LMAO.


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Panther should be able to break those chains. Doesn't Coates know he's done it before?

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Found it. Black Panther 6.

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LMAO.


That makes very little sense, unless this version of BP is not wearing vibranium-weave threads. His vibranium suit should make such a blow harmless.

Even without it, someone of BP's caliber shouldn't be fazed by such a blow. Imagine Captain America or Batman (or even Bucky or Nightwing) being knocked out like that and strung up?


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