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Mangog vs Doomsday(H/P-DD Wars-OWAW)

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Mangog across the board.

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Eh, Classic Mangog was more of a Skyfather level beast. HP Doomsday except with a lot more versatility and magical powers. He was beating up Thor casually in an era when Thor would probably beat Hunter Prey Doomsday in a fight. He's my favorite there. Jurgen's Mangog would be interesting to see, he had some divisive opinions between Thor/Superman.

With Mangog coming back, I'm curious to see how he will be written. His last appearance in Thunderstrike was underwhelming but he was a shadow of his former self.

The Phoenix considered him a threat (Capable of finishing what it couldn't IIRC) and he was written as the "Ultimate Solution" or whatever and hyped to be capable of ending everything in his path so I hope he leaves up to his name.


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Eh, Classic Mangog was more of a Skyfather level beast. HP Doomsday except with a lot more versatility and magical powers. He was beating up Thor casually in an era when Thor would probably beat Hunter Prey Doomsday in a fight. He's my favorite there. Jurgen's Mangog would be interesting to see, he had some divisive opinions between Thor/Superman.

With Mangog coming back, I'm curious to see how he will be written. His last appearance in Thunderstrike was underwhelming but he was a shadow of his former self.

The Phoenix considered him a threat (Capable of finishing what it couldn't IIRC) and he was written as the "Ultimate Solution" or whatever and hyped to be capable of ending everything in his path so I hope he leaves up to his name.



Jurgens Mangog was as powerful as Silver age Mangog. Thunderstrike Mangog was stated to be more powerful than ever.

laughing out loud @ Thor beating Doomsday though.

Doomsday rips Mangog apart.


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He was a little underwhelming in his most recent appearance, but in the end they knew he could not be beat and hat to resort to bfr. Crazier still is they had the ultimate bfr master(Thor), but even that was extremely difficult to pull off.


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Eh, Classic Mangog was more of a Skyfather level beast. HP Doomsday except with a lot more versatility and magical powers. He was beating up Thor casually in an era when Thor would probably beat Hunter Prey Doomsday in a fight. He's my favorite there. Jurgen's Mangog would be interesting to see, he had some divisive opinions between Thor/Superman.

With Mangog coming back, I'm curious to see how he will be written. His last appearance in Thunderstrike was underwhelming but he was a shadow of his former self.

The Phoenix considered him a threat (Capable of finishing what it couldn't IIRC) and he was written as the "Ultimate Solution" or whatever and hyped to be capable of ending everything in his path so I hope he leaves up to his name.


Thor. Beating HP Doomsday? He can't even beat Darkseid.

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Mangog across the board.

Based on...?

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The facted, as stated above, Clasdic Mangog was create to be and written specifically as a "Skyfather-Beatee".
Which is y the comments were made over and over, in his initial appearances, that Odin himself was terrified of Mangog. That nothing could stop him. That he defeated all of Asgard, casually.
These comments were made until the shit became BORING.

He was shown to b unbeatable, except for a plot device that still didn't actually destroy Mangog.
He even gathered other powers along the way, as they were needed, matter manipulation, illusion, ability to gain power from different sources.

The point is, that is how he was written, described and the position the character was given. This has been done with many other characters. There are only 2 options, either decide that many of these characters, with far-spanning histories and huge umbrella staements being made about thier power and off-panel pasts, be completely dropped, due to portrayals that aren't dated or unquantifiable by current standards, or, bite the bullet, accept the histories and info, and simply deal with it.

Negating the histories of certain characters has become a constant issue in here. It also creates a lot if unnecessary friction.

For whatever reason, early Thor, Odin, Mangog and other storylines, were written in a way that was supposed to place the powersets, threats, characters and effects at a level above all others. "Godhood". To put the reader there, a lot had to b taken as fact, regardless of logic. But, it's still in the books.

I debate, or have debated with many of u and have been the guy wishibg I could wipe away or alter certain details of an opposing character. But, the crap was in the books. So, guess what... I lose.

We have all been there.

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Originally posted by Horrificus
The facted, as stated above, Clasdic Mangog was create to be and written specifically as a "Skyfather-Beatee".
Which is y the comments were made over and over, in his initial appearances, that Odin himself was terrified of Mangog. That nothing could stop him. That he defeated all of Asgard, casually.
These comments were made until the shit became BORING.

He was shown to b unbeatable, except for a plot device that still didn't actually destroy Mangog.
He even gathered other powers along the way, as they were needed, matter manipulation, illusion, ability to gain power from different sources.

The point is, that is how he was written, described and the position the character was given. This has been done with many other characters. There are only 2 options, either decide that many of these characters, with far-spanning histories and huge umbrella staements being made about thier power and off-panel pasts, be completely dropped, due to portrayals that aren't dated or unquantifiable by current standards, or, bite the bullet, accept the histories and info, and simply deal with it.

Negating the histories of certain characters has become a constant issue in here. It also creates a lot if unnecessary friction.

For whatever reason, early Thor, Odin, Mangog and other storylines, were written in a way that was supposed to place the powersets, threats, characters and effects at a level above all others. "Godhood". To put the reader there, a lot had to b taken as fact, regardless of logic. But, it's still in the books.

I debate, or have debated with many of u and have been the guy wishibg I could wipe away or alter certain details of an opposing character. But, the crap was in the books. So, guess what... I lose.

We have all been there.


And.. This is supposed to be more impressive than Doomsday because...?

DD stomped Apokolops and Darkseid. Who is easily as powerful as Odin if not far above him.

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Eh, Classic Mangog was more of a Skyfather level beast. HP Doomsday except with a lot more versatility and magical powers. He was beating up Thor casually in an era when Thor would probably beat Hunter Prey Doomsday in a fight. He's my favorite there. Jurgen's Mangog would be interesting to see, he had some divisive opinions between Thor/Superman.

With Mangog coming back, I'm curious to see how he will be written. His last appearance in Thunderstrike was underwhelming but he was a shadow of his former self.

The Phoenix considered him a threat (Capable of finishing what it couldn't IIRC) and he was written as the "Ultimate Solution" or whatever and hyped to be capable of ending everything in his path so I hope he leaves up to his name.


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Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Eh, Classic Mangog was more of a Skyfather level beast. HP Doomsday except with a lot more versatility and magical powers. He was beating up Thor casually in an era when Thor would probably beat Hunter Prey Doomsday in a fight. He's my favorite there. Jurgen's Mangog would be interesting to see, he had some divisive opinions between Thor/Superman.

With Mangog coming back, I'm curious to see how he will be written. His last appearance in Thunderstrike was underwhelming but he was a shadow of his former self.

The Phoenix considered him a threat (Capable of finishing what it couldn't IIRC) and he was written as the "Ultimate Solution" or whatever and hyped to be capable of ending everything in his path so I hope he leaves up to his name.


Yea, I'm curious as to how Aaron does this:

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DD stomped Apokolops and Darkseid. Who is easily as powerful as Odin if not far above him.

Now THAT'S just silly-talk!

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Now THAT'S just silly-talk!

Why would that be?


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Darkseid ~ Infinite Man.


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Darkseid ~ Infinite Man.

Blasphemy!!

Speak not the name of the Infinite Man amonst the unclean of this forum!

Show not the false atrocities of panels depicting the Infinite Man in any state other than supremem majesty!


Oh, Infinite Man. U could not remain safe forever.

Galan, in your attempt to prove the defeat of one of my favorite characters, (Mangog), u have unknowingly stumbled across and sullied my Favorite Obscure Character.

The Infinite Man.

I will need time to recover...

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Darkseid ~ Infinite Man.

That obviously doesn't counts.


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Darkseid ~ Infinite Man.


Correction: weakened Darkseid.

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Wouldn't Mangog be amped by DD?


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Wouldn't Mangog be amped by DD?



Yep, Classic Mangog had the ability to feed off of physical and Energy attacks, plus Mangog feeds off hatred, rage all negative emotions. So DD would be fueling C Mangog would defeated SA Odin handily.

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Jurgens Mangog was as powerful as Silver age Mangog. Thunderstrike Mangog was stated to be more powerful than ever.

laughing out loud @ Thor beating Doomsday though.

Doomsday rips Mangog apart.


Where was this stated? And I know what was said in the Thunderstrike mini, but clearly this was false.


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