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Who in DC can defeat Perpetua

A crap ton of threads have been made with the World Forger, and it surprises me that not nearly as many have been made for Perpetua. This makes me wonder: who other than the Source and its Judges in DC are more powerful than Perpetua? Some feats from her off the top of my head:

-Rending the Overvoid into flesh to create the Monitor, Anti-Monitor, and World Forger, three truly Multiversal + beings, latter of which was capable of keeping a Multiversal entity (Barbatos) as a pet on his shoulder for billions of years, forging Hypertime, and tanking a Multiversal punch.

-Instantly oneshotting the Ultra-Monitor, a fusion of the Monitor/Anti-Monitor/World Forger and the power of the totality, which allowed the Brothers to shape their respective domains of Matter, Anti-Matter, and Dark Matter. Also granting the Ultra-Monitor the ALE and transforming him into COIE AM.

-Creating the initial DC Multiverse and the Sixth Dimension ex-nihilo, a realm beyond even imagination/the 5th dimension that makes the entire lower Multiverse (which in this case consists of the Dark Multiverse, 5th dimension, Monitor Sphere, Sphere of Gods, mainstream multiverse, etc) appear microbial in comparison.


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Did Perpetua actually create the 6th dimension, though? I thought she just operated within it -- like Mxy and the 5th dimension..?


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perpetua is just one of many who resides in the 6th dimension to create multiverses


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Originally posted by Galan007
Did Perpetua actually create the 6th dimension, though? I thought she just operated within it -- like Mxy and the 5th dimension..?


Well, Perpetua is stated to have created the entire DC Multiverse from scratch (creating it out of the nothingness that is the blank canvas of the Overvoid). The Sixth Dimension is still part of DC, and as such could not have existed prior to Perpetua creating it. I would argue Perpetua is more or less directly responsible for the creation of Mxy and the like as well.

At the very least, Perpetua created the Matter, Anti-Matter, and incomprehensibly massive Dark Multiverse.


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perpetua is just one of many who resides in the 6th dimension to create multiverses


The Sixth Dimension is not the same as the Greater Omniverse: the former is a dimension Perpetua created along with the Brothers Three to act as the control room for the DC Multiverse. The Greater Omniverse is where Perpetua and the Super Celestials create multiverses on the blank canvas of the Overvoid. As Mxy says, only Perpetua and the Brothers Three could exist in the 6th dimension prior to the destruction of the Source Wall, which caused the barriers between dimensions in DC to falter. It is a product of DC, not a dimension where all of the super celestials in the Omniverse reside.


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So she created WF?

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Well, Perpetua is stated to have created the entire DC Multiverse from scratch (creating it out of the nothingness that is the blank canvas of the Overvoid). The Sixth Dimension is still part of DC, and as such could not have existed prior to Perpetua creating it. I would argue Perpetua is more or less directly responsible for the creation of Mxy and the like as well.

At the very least, Perpetua created the Matter, Anti-Matter, and incomprehensibly massive Dark Multiverse.
But there are no direct implications that Perpetua created the 6th or even 5th dimensions. So far as we know, she 'only' created the dimensional space of the mainstream multiverse(which stops at the Monitor Sphere), as well as the Dark Multiverse(which is infinitely more vast than all dimensions within the mainstream multiverse combined.)

I personally think Perpetua was created within the 6th dimension(by the Source) to carry out her function of multiversal creation. IOW, she operates from within the 6th dimension, but she didn't create the realm itself


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So she created WF?
Perpetua created WF, Monitor, and Anti-Monitor. Three, fully multiversal beings.


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The "Cosmic Judges" can beat her i gather.


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I'll place odds on Dr. Manhattan being able to break even with her at the least, but I'm thinking that Manhattan wins.


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Maybe Lucifer or Michael.

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I'll place odds on Dr. Manhattan being able to break even with her at the least, but I'm thinking that Manhattan wins.
what if Superman beats up Dr. Manhattan?

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Maybe Lucifer or Michael.
yes I think these 2, the presence/source and the cosmic judges maybe even the spectre if he’s fully backed by the presence.

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I'll place odds on Dr. Manhattan being able to break even with her at the least, but I'm thinking that Manhattan wins.


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what if Superman beats up Dr. Manhattan?


Hes not. You all were parading around KMC saying that Superman was going to beat the team of Zod, Mongul, Cyborg Superman, etc... and when he did face them, he was getting slaughtered. It's like you parade on possibilities and it never happens.


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Perpetua with the 7 entries is as strong as you can get before reaching omnipotent status

With that said, it’s not under her own power. She borrowed that power and was meant to return it

So in DC, at her max..no one can beat her. She can literally destroy or mold the multiverse any ways she wants.


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Mandrakk and Cosmic Armor Superman.
Mandrakk is avatar of page and CAS represents ink.
And,Empty hand.

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Originally posted by carver9
Hes not. You all were parading around KMC saying that Superman was going to beat the team of Zod, Mongul, Cyborg Superman, etc... and when he did face them, he was getting slaughtered. It's like you parade on possibilities and it never happens.
bro you gots stop making shit up. I never said anything about that fight and you’re wrong about what happened as per usual.

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BTW, in Morrison and Geoff's setting, it is Superman who represents ink(imagination)
But, in Snyder setting, it is probably The Source who represents ink.
What do you think this difference?

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HISHE Batman would win.


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