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Batman vs Logan vs Iron Fist combat speed battle

out of these three, who's the most impressive speed wise against formidable opponents

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Batman has his Zoom fight, so....


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One one of them caught a bullet and threw it back at the attacker.


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Batman has his Zoom fight, so....



Danny fought a speedster early in Power Man and Iron Fist.

And I don't credit that outlier stuff any more then I do Zoom. stick out tongue


The fact Batman himself claimed he'd lose to Cassandra Cain is a more credible representation of his capabilities. And she has similar "playing chicken with bullets" feats.


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Danny fought a speedster early in Power Man and Iron Fist.

And I don't credit that outlier stuff any more then I do Zoom. stick out tongue


The fact Batman himself claimed he'd lose to Cassandra Cain is a more credible representation of his capabilities. And she has similar "playing chicken with bullets" feats.


OP has asked for the most impressive speed feat.

So that would be Zoom then.


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OP has asked for the most impressive speed feat.

So that would be Zoom then.


"the most impressive speed wise against formidable opponents"

So... yeah, Zoom is probably the best example.


And Logan would be #2 with his performance against the likes of Riptide, Count Nefaria (who remembered about his speed), Living Lightning, Speed Demon and so on.


Danny somewhere at #4397. Maybe one day Marvel will let him fight some d-list speedster... like Whizzer.


Maybe.


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Zoom kicked his butt though.


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"the most impressive speed wise against formidable opponents"

So... yeah, Zoom is probably the best example.


And Logan would be #2 with his performance against the likes of Riptide, Count Nefaria (who remembered about his speed), Living Lightning, Speed Demon and so on.


Danny somewhere at #4397. Maybe one day Marvel will let him fight some d-list speedster... like Whizzer.


Maybe.


He outreacted Spidey who eats speedsters for lunch.


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Zoom kicked his butt though.


Batman was only trying to buy time, which he did.

Zoom was trying to kill him, which he didn't.

Moreover, it's still more impressive as it's Zoom, the guy who speed blitzes Flashes for fun.


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He outreacted Spidey who eats speedsters for lunch.


So did the half of the Marvel Universe, including Logan.

And ABC logic really doesn't apply here.


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OP has asked for the most impressive speed feat.

So that would be Zoom then.


That's a PIS fight. Not a scalable fight. As is most of Batman's non-Gotham showings.

Zoom was fast enough to casually phase through his punches while standing still in some panels while also slow enough to get hit by others in other panels.


Must be Batman mixing in 60 mph street tier punches and Faster than time punches to keep Zoom guessing.


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Batman was only trying to buy time, which he did.

Zoom was trying to kill him, which he didn't.

Moreover, it's still more impressive as it's Zoom, the guy who speed blitzes Flashes for fun.



So he blitz's a guy Slade slaps around on a regular basis. stick out tongue


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Has Danny fought any speedster in his career?

Serious question.


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That's a PIS fight. Not a scalable fight. As is most of Batman's non-Gotham showings.

Zoom was fast enough to casually phase through his punches while standing still in some panels while also slow enough to get hit by others in other panels.


Must be Batman mixing in 60 mph street tier punches and Faster than time punches to keep Zoom guessing.


Pretty much.



Scaling Batman by the Zoom fights ignores his speed level is well established as below Slade Wilson's, who while enhanced is certainly no Flash.


Unless you want to make the argument Slade is even faster then Zoom, which is why this sort of scaling is stupid.


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Has Danny fought any speedster in his career?

Serious question.

Luke Cage obviously


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Luke Cage obviously


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Blacker than Black Racer... so must be faster, too thumb up


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Has Danny fought any speedster in his career?

Serious question.



You don't remember Power Man and Iron Fist? The speedster that aged into an old man as the story went on?


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You don't remember Power Man and Iron Fist? The speedster that aged into an old man as the story went on?


Name?

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Pretty much.



Scaling Batman by the Zoom fights ignores his speed level is well established as below Slade Wilson's, who while enhanced is certainly no Flash.


Unless you want to make the argument Slade is even faster then Zoom, which is why this sort of scaling is stupid.


Bats has had plenty of great fights against Slade.


Superman and Martial Manhunter couldn't even track Batman's movements.


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That's a PIS fight. Not a scalable fight. As is most of Batman's non-Gotham showings.

Zoom was fast enough to casually phase through his punches while standing still in some panels while also slow enough to get hit by others in other panels.


Must be Batman mixing in 60 mph street tier punches and Faster than time punches to keep Zoom guessing.


That's not what the OP asks for.

It asks for most impressive combat speed feats against formidable opponents.

So going up against and surviving against one of the top speedsters in DC, who humiliates other speedsters, is the most impressive. In fact, you dismissing it as PIS showcases how impressive it is - because even in the realm of comic book fights, it's so out there that you want to ignore it.


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Thunderbolt.


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