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Waverider Vs Silver Surfer

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Does Surfer have a counter for time-stoppage + Entropy-dumpage?


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Does Surfer have a counter for time-stoppage + Entropy-dumpage?

Seems like the Entrophy thing could probably be dealt with by Surfer's own time travel powers and/or his ability to phase totally out of the physical universe all the way into the next one. As far as I know he's never countered a timestop cause it's not something that happens very often in Marvel. The closest he's even been to such a scenario I can think of off the top of my head is during the original Infinity Gauntlet and that's a very different situation than he'd be facing against Waverider if they squared off directly. Given his own past feats of not only time travel, but also direct manipulation of raw chronal energy I could absolutely see a writer feeling justified in giving him the feat should it become relevant and I myself personally lean towards him probably being able to do it based on logical deduction, but there's nothing that springs to mind to suggest that his ability to counter it would be a definite thing.


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Surfers time powers are too limited. And so rare they may as well be PIS.


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Surfer has fought of reality manipulation before. That + what Darth mention, I think itís safe to say he can counter time stoppage.

https://imgur.com/gallery/lkSuV6m


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Surfer has fought of reality manipulation before. That + what Darth mention, I think itís safe to say he can counter time stoppage.

https://imgur.com/gallery/lkSuV6m

Please post the full scene.

Anyway Surfer was helpless in a timeloop just recently.


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Isn't Waverider overseer of Hypertime?

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Originally posted by abhilegend
Please post the full scene.

Anyway Surfer was helpless in a timeloop just recently.


Hereís te full scan! Itís when Ellie Waters use her realty manipulation on Surfer.

https://imgur.com/gallery/q6jxEIx

Just a bit of info on Ellie.

https://imgur.com/gallery/RmatHWr
https://imgur.com/gallery/RgLMgxq

She is Universally high end Reality manipulator.


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^^ So, can Surfer resist WR's time manipulation?

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Surfers time powers are too limited. And so rare they may as well be PIS.

I wouldnt characterize is as "so rare". He doesnt use it as often as an energy blast for example, but i dont think it's so out of the ordinary.


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^^ So, can Surfer resist WR's time manipulation?

I donít see why not! If he was able to resist reality manipulation, he should be able to do so with time as well, after all the first require both time and space to manipulate.


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Hereís te full scan! Itís when Ellie Waters use her realty manipulation on Surfer.

https://imgur.com/gallery/q6jxEIx

Just a bit of info on Ellie.

https://imgur.com/gallery/RmatHWr
https://imgur.com/gallery/RgLMgxq

She is Universally high end Reality manipulator.

No, I meant the full scene.

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I donít see why not! If he was able to resist reality manipulation, he should be able to do so with time as well, after all the first require both time and space to manipulate.

Nope, he was stuck in a time loop and couldn't get out.

https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Si...1W4yZVOlT9ms6ZA


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No, I meant the full scene.


Nope, he was stuck in a time loop and couldn't get out.

https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Si...1W4yZVOlT9ms6ZA

I canít post all the full comic scene there Abby! Thatís a bit too much of work. Thatís from Silver Surfer Revelation # 12, Itís pretty much Ellie using her powers to make a new universe for Surfer/herself/her mom.

https://imgur.com/gallery/V68ChzB

And please donít say itís just a dream!

And your time loop scan doesnít work but anyhow let me just save you the work.

https://imgur.com/gallery/vsNAi28

Thatís from your scan and it shows clearly that Surfer fought off said time loop.


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Entropy ftw?

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Entropy ftw?

That would only work Senor if he could BFR SS.


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I canít post all the full comic scene there Abby! Thatís a bit too much of work. Thatís from Silver Surfer Revelation # 12, Itís pretty much Ellie using her powers to make a new universe for Surfer/herself/her mom.

https://imgur.com/gallery/V68ChzB

And please donít say itís just a dream!

And your time loop scan doesnít work but anyhow let me just save you the work.

https://imgur.com/gallery/vsNAi28

Thatís from your scan and it shows clearly that Surfer fought off said time loop.

So you knew it was a dream and yet you posted it?

laughing out loud

He chose a different action and that's why the time loop was broken. That's not an option here. Thought you can read. Guess not.


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Why am I not surprise! lol 😂

Your absolutely a hoot to debate with ... I suggest you invest some time and effort into the character/ topic your arguing against, that way youíd be taken seriously 😳 tell then .. Chao!


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No doubt surfer is pretty versatile, but he doesn't have the same control over quantum energy/time than Waverider.

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Why am I not surprise! lol 😂

Your absolutely a hoot to debate with ... I suggest you invest some time and effort into the character/ topic your arguing against, that way youíd be taken seriously 😳 tell then .. Chao!
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a surfer fanboy, nothing to see here


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