His goofy but ridiculous feats. Like when he pulled down Pulsar Stargrave. Not the mass itself, but how it happened. Pulsar said "I have stellar mass. You have no leverage. It's illogical." Lobo still pulled him down saying "Lobo don't do logic." Regardless of how strong he is, without something to anchor him, Lobo should have pulled himself up to Pulsar, not pulled Pulsar down. So the writer acknowledged that breaks physics even for a comic.
__________________ Bluewaterrider: "I'm surprised that a Skyfather like Zeus defeated Hulk when Zeus' Top-Tier son Hercules has lost to Hulk."
So then just plain old Lobo then. Even in comics that he is presented with toon like dynamics, you will find something that forces him back into the fold. Lobo’s original mini series back in the 90’s which was just before the Lobo’s Back mini showed him being rocked by a sledge hammer to the face.
My point being that it’s all canon to Lobo, and shouldn’t be separated into toon vs mainstream. Imo, Lobo isn’t strong enough to go toe to toe with the Green Scar. Lou wasn’t strong enough to go toe to toe with him either, and he killed Lobo. Clones could -owe a threat, but this version of the Hulk could thunder clap planets into dust.
The same power that he tapped into directly was the power of the one below, or the one below all. Mephistopheles recently commented on it, as well as other characters from varying books. Lobo just isn’t that powerful.
We were given a glimpse of a universe that his power had dominated all powers set before him in the Immortal Hulk.
No other Hulk to date has been able to consciously will their power to increase without relying on anger to propel the amount of damage he could output. He had full control. I get that Pulsar was powerful, but as he was written, he had no governor in play to regulate how powerful he could become. It was only by choice that he didn’t one shot Earth.
My point is that surely, SURELY, Stoic, you should be fair and be using Lobo at his best, no? Bringing up low showings - when I've already shown why there are low showings - is a bit disingenuous.
Here is the explanation, which many have seen already:
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In short, Lobo is multiversal, and the different versions vary in power levels, which is why in one issue he can fight as a spirit (this negating thunderclaps) and in other issues he can be KOd, then in other issues fight without his head.
If we are using versions at their best (as Stoic is fond of doing), then all his low showings are to be ignored, because it's from versions of Lobo that are weaker.
I'm not sure where you're going with this, but on the Pulsar thing, whatever you're arguing about he chose not to destroy the planet, pretty sure what Lobo did is more impressive than destroying a planet.
__________________ Bluewaterrider: "I'm surprised that a Skyfather like Zeus defeated Hulk when Zeus' Top-Tier son Hercules has lost to Hulk."
In that case it didn’t count when he broke his hand punching Darkseid? His losses against Superman didn’t count because we didn’t see his strongest version fight? How long will you reach? Did we not see Lobo go from toon version to being stunned by a sledge hammer all within the same series under the very same writer? The same writer that wrote Lobo’s back? How far do we reach to make this as convoluted as it can possibly get?
I am not the one that began the full capacity structure, it was the super friends. We both know it. Let’s act like we do.
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Oct 18th, 2022 10:21 PM
Bluewaterrider: "I'm surprised that a Skyfather like Zeus defeated Hulk when Zeus' Top-Tier son Hercules has lost to Hulk."
