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abhilegend
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Stop the moon from rotating

Which of the below characters can stop the moon accelerated by a warp drive like below from rotating by pure strength?

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lawest9
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Don't know if any of them can match Cap's feat here, but that was a Superman worthy feat by Billy.

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Re: Stop the moon from rotating

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We can't use Carver?

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Iirc, didnt Hercules and an Xman (think it was sun spot) stop earth from spinning, and even mentioned Hulk could've done it? Stopping the earth from spinning (even if it was split in half by 2 people) >>>>> stopping the moon from spinning. All of them except Thing does it. Cry!!!

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Iirc, didnt Hercules and an Xman (think it was sun spot) stop earth from spinning, and even mentioned Hulk could've done it? Stopping the earth from spinning (even if it was split in half by 2 people) >>>>> stopping the moon from spinning. All of them except Thing does it. Cry!!!

Yup. It was Hercules and Sunspot (the former New Mutant). The Earth is like 4 times the size of the Moon or something so I'd bet either of those two could stop the moon from rotating. And if they can, then everyone on that list except Thing should be able to pull it off.

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Originally posted by carver9
Iirc, didnt Hercules and an Xman (think it was sun spot) stop earth from spinning, and even mentioned Hulk could've done it? Stopping the earth from spinning (even if it was split in half by 2 people) >>>>> stopping the moon from spinning. All of them except Thing does it. Cry!!!

Stopping Earth's single rotation by Hercules, Jane Thor and Sunspot is vastly beneath what Cap did here, moon was rotating incredibly fast (doing rotation in seconds) and Cap stopped it alone.

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Stopping Earth's single rotation by Hercules, Jane Thor and Sunspot is vastly beneath what Cap did here, moon was rotating incredibly fast (doing rotation in seconds) and Cap stopped it alone.

Thor strength had nothing to do with it and it was outright said that it's like holding up the world. Sunspot can do this ft by himself with one hand.

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They literally stopped the rotation of the earth. All Thor did was power the machine. Lol at you trying to overhype a showing like this. Sad an xman can achieve better results without straining.

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Does Abhi like any marvel characters or is he completely anti marvel?

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Originally posted by zopzop
Yup. It was Hercules and Sunspot (the former New Mutant). The Earth is like 4 times the size of the Moon or something so I'd bet either of those two could stop the moon from rotating. And if they can, then everyone on that list except Thing should be able to pull it off.

The Earth has ~80 times the mass of the Moon.

The Earth is also rotating at ~30x the speed of the Moon,normally.

Momentum = mass x velocity.

So in short, if the Moon was rotating ~240 times faster than it normally does, then the Moon feat is more impressive, all things being equal.

Now we know it normally takes ~30 days to do 1 rotation (i.e. a month). Speeding this up by 240x, means it would take 3 hours to do one rotation.

It obviously was much faster than 240x, which means it had more momentum than a 'normal' Earth, a lot more.

So Hercules and Sunspot, combined, didn't do as impressive a feat as Billy.

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Does Abhi like any marvel characters or is he completely anti marvel?

Completely anti-marvel.

He hopes Superman one day will enter our world and save India from China and Pakistan.

But Supes is a 100% MAGA Trump zombie, he only cares about 'Murica.

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abhilegend
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Originally posted by zopzop
Yup. It was Hercules and Sunspot (the former New Mutant). The Earth is like 4 times the size of the Moon or something so I'd bet either of those two could stop the moon from rotating. And if they can, then everyone on that list except Thing should be able to pull it off.

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Thor strength had nothing to do with it and it was outright said that it's like holding up the world. Sunspot can do this ft by himself with one hand.

https://ibb.co/WK25SRc

They literally stopped the rotation of the earth. All Thor did was power the machine. Lol at you trying to overhype a showing like this. Sad an xman can achieve better results without straining.

They were struggling carvster, hence Jane needed to help them.

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It was a single rotation too.

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Squirrel Girl could do this with all the squirrels on Earth, word up.

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The Earth has ~80 times the mass of the Moon.

The Earth is also rotating at ~30x the speed of the Moon,normally.

Momentum = mass x velocity.

So in short, if the Moon was rotating ~240 times faster than it normally does, then the Moon feat is more impressive, all things being equal.

Now we know it normally takes ~30 days to do 1 rotation (i.e. a month). Speeding this up by 240x, means it would take 3 hours to do one rotation.

It obviously was much faster than 240x, which means it had more momentum than a 'normal' Earth, a lot more.

So Hercules and Sunspot, combined, didn't do as impressive a feat as Billy.

How much of a difference does Billy's flight speed make in this scenario?

Legitimate question, I'm no physicist.

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Like.....it should be the entirety of the feat, imo.

He has to brace against *something* when stopping the Moon. You can't just press down whilst in midair if you don't have flight abilities.

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yeah how can anyone argue the thor/hercules/x-men feat better than the shazam one is beyond me

1. it was a shared feat
2. they only stopped a single rotation of earth
3. like darksaint said the moon was much faster than 240 times than normal

also carver is retarded

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Originally posted by zopzop
Yup. It was Hercules and Sunspot (the former New Mutant). The Earth is like 4 times the size of the Moon or something so I'd bet either of those two could stop the moon from rotating. And if they can, then everyone on that list except Thing should be able to pull it off.

I easily debated against that feat a while ago. It is Unquantifiable at best.
1. They didn't directly stop he Earth from rotating, but rather, they stopped the machine that was magically causing the Earth to rotate.
2. Assuming a direct connection, We don't know where the machine was applying the force to Earth (i.e the length of the level arm). We can obtain many different answers depending on where the force was being applied to the Earth.

But it's not necessary

1. Characters don't share feats
2. Why would Thor = Herc + unleased Sun spot, why is Gladiator and the others = the same?
3. Moon was rotating possibly far faster than the Earth (looks like more than 7 times a second from the illustration).
4. WBH can't fly.

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Like.....it should be the entirety of the feat, imo.

He has to brace against *something* when stopping the Moon. You can't just press down whilst in midair if you don't have flight abilities.

Billy is all about magic, though.

It doesn't need to make sense, not with him involved.

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Like.....it should be the entirety of the feat, imo.

He has to brace against *something* when stopping the Moon. You can't just press down whilst in midair if you don't have flight abilities.

Yeah. This question always confuses me when it comes to mid-flight strength feats.

Nov 8th, 2023 09:49 PM

DarkSaint85
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Billy is all about magic, though.

It doesn't need to make sense, not with him involved.

They even call this out in the comic. He starts talking in space and they acknowledge he's magic

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Yeah. This question always confuses me when it comes to mid-flight strength feats.

If comic writers really took it into account, every character that doesn't have flight is getting uppercutted into the atmosphere.

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