How is God defined in scripture (Bible) and other religions books.
Is He loving,feared, takes sides, trustworthy,...who is He. What is It/He/She? Does It hear you or not..In scriptures of any Holy Book, how is God defined.
Feared, and often portrayed as hating and damning all who do not worship him/her/whatever everyday.
But I trully think that "God" is defined by your own personal beliefs, and should not be influenced by what someone said thousands of years ago.....
Yes, God can hear you... He listens.
But, just because He listens doesn't mean you're going to get everything you want. Ya know how at one point all parents have to look at their 2 year old and say "Don't put that in your mouth"... Well, they might say that because it's been on the floor, or it's plastic.... They have a good reason for telling the kid not to stick the thing in it's mouth, right? Well, God has certain reasons for not answering prayers. He has a reason for everything, because, He knows the big picture. See?
What is the reason God allows children to be abducted, molested, and murdered? When he hears the prayers of one of these children, does He respond, "I am listening to your prayer but you cannot have everything you want. I have a bigger picture to consider here and you are just being selfish,"?
I sympathize with what you think God is...You think he should rescue you. Wouldn't it be great if He did..Yea if he did wouldn't everyone believe in Him? Wouldn't that be the Trump card? Wouldn't everyone convert? it's a much bigger picture than this. Though I can not define Him/her/It , You have to look at the fact , maybe M-theory and faith.
Exactly. Say a child was molested or something and they prayed 'Get me through this hard time!' But he didn't make it any easier for them, is that loving? No.
I don't know if God cares, but he certainly isn't fair.
yeah cause there really aint no answer to it so you all shy away form questions like that, with god works in mysterious ways, and those who suffer will get a better life in heaven and so on.......
For one, you and people in general, regard life on earth differently from how God does. You know of life in death as the extent of it. Where as God knows that death on earth is not the ending itself but the ending of a phase. When man dies in the body, the body that is cursed in sin that passes away. Ones who inherit salvation, will be given a new and untained body. God doesnt promise to save you from all that is bad in the world but it is also made clear that the body here on earth is just temporary. God will not step in and stop every bad thing from happening, thats not the way he wants it. God did not put sin into man, man sinned onto God. You are not by yourself, entitled to anything. It is by the grace of God that you have.
So maybe God saves their life then (though they will die anyway eventually) or maybe he doesnt, it is still only one phase of existence and it is the one that will surely pass away. It has to be understood in a different context than what the average person sees.
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Who comes first? Man or God? God loves man so much that he sent his only begotten son to taste death for all. So that man can inherit salvation and have a glorious destiny. You think those actions are, not nice? I completely disagree with you. As to assuming it is this way, well thats why you get to make your choice. You can either believe or disbelieve but that responsibility rests on you. God wants us to have faith in him, to obey him and trust in him. But God allows us to do the opposite aswell, that is free will.
Remember that Jesus himself, suffered a horrible death. If bad can happen to the son, how can you question how it can happen to others? These are the actions of the wicked, God allows them to exist for now. This world is tainted. However, by the grace of God you have the chance at someday spending eternity with him. Man will be exalted over all other creation, including the angels.
Back to the subject of right here and now though. If God wanted to stop all bad from happening, he could. But then he would be forcing people to do his will, essentially having robots. That is not what he wanted though. He made man in his likeness, with the ability to either follow him or not. To love him is by choice, not by force. So understand that the bad things that happen, are not the result of God. They are the result of Mans bad choice(s). But choices that must exist.
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The Bible is CERTAINLY NOT the word of God - God would never be so limited and small-minded as depicted in the Bible - the Bible was written by incompetent human minds.
This is what God is:
The absolute of being, God comprises all of existence and thus he controls all processes within being via absolute intellect.
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So God allows a child is abducted, molested, and murdered because that is the way he wants it? An innocent child that prays to God for protection is not entitled to anything? How omnibenevolent.
If God wanted to stop a child from being abducted, molested, and murdered he could, he simply chooses not to. The Bible is filled with incidents in which God interferes with free will and manipulates human events.
^ The Bible is filled with incidents in which God interferes, but there are many times He does not. People lose their faith in God because they expect Him to do what He never said He would. God would rather have you take what has happened to you and use it to heal the world.
Wait a minute, the bible clearly states that people are not entitled to anything. Life itself is a gift. Children do get abducted, there are a lot of bad things in the world. God's promise is salvation, not ultimate protection on earth. The truth about life on earth is that it must end. Just as God allows evil (the opposite of his will) he allows good.
God can interfer, Im not saying he cant. What I said was that there is no guarantee. If you only look at the bad, you will never see the good. God permits both. Thats not, non omnibenevolent. God hates sin and he still made it so that people can be saved. People want to only look in the shorter term and ask why but if you look at the bigger picture, what really matters is revealed.
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