Lucifer.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucifer

Your thoughts.

Interesting isn't it????? And to think the church integrated it into the doctrine for our well being.....How the church must love us..... 😕 👿

He is also a evil devil.I know I do not want to riot in hell wiht him.JMfurious

Think about this. If God, in the Christian sense (and many other religions) is "perfect"...meaning, there is no possible way to improve upon it in any way, and the result is something inconceivable by our minds...then how is it that Lucifer is able to 'leave' God??? This leaves me with 3 conclusions...
1. God never fully presented himself to Lucifer therefore never giving him a fair chance at staying.
Or
2. God isn't perfect.
Or
3. None of it ever happened...Satan, and therefore Hell, doesn't exist.

I've long dis-believed the existence of a hell. A God who says "Here are some rules. Now I'll be forgiving, but if I think you didn't do well enough in your life I'll send you to eternal punishment," doesn't seem to be a very loving God to me.

Furthermore (since I'm on my high-horse anyway), we are an adaptive species. Anything very good or very bad, we get used to eventually...and it isn't so bad or good. Apply this to heaven and hell. Unless it is so far beyond what we can conceive, any punishment will eventually become routine...be it spiritual, mental, or physical...or will at least lessen in its intensity. The same with heaven (again, unless it is far beyond our comprehension). I believe in an 'other' life, but I honestly don't think it will be anything like our popular conceptions of heaven or hell.

-DM

Interesting post.

Originally posted by Freaky Zeeky
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucifer

Your thoughts.

actually they believe in the evil one but his name isn't really lucifer, he had alot of names but he never had one. He was called the bright morning star in ezekiel, which is his true name.

He was called the bright morning star in ezekiel, which is his true name.

no, only God can speak to Satan.

yeah right 🙄

oh yes, he spoke to god in job and still does today.

😂 man this is getting better and better

this is true and Satan must ask god for permission to test a saint that doesn't seem to give into Satan's ways.

hysterical...................oh if there was a sataan and it was this gods nemesis . Satan do as it pleases without asking this god a thing

Originally posted by cking
oh yes, he spoke to god in job and still does today.

I think Job is only a story, like a parble..Satan the evil fallen angel is not real.

Why is it not true?

because it is a fable...........

Originally posted by cking
no, only God can speak to Satan.

Did god tell you this...or satan?

Satan is real if not then none of us would be tempted for he is called the tempter and without temptation, sin would never be a problem.

Satan does this to get back at god for the incident in heaven.