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Do you think Information will lead towards God?
I think it will. I think the more we learn the more we require less proof of His existance.

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Jan 13th, 2015 07:13 PM

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Shakyamunison
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I think the opposite. The more we learn the less of God there is.

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i think there is a creator... but not the way anyone on this earth portrays it

Jan 16th, 2015 11:26 PM

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i think there is a creator... but not the way anyone on this earth portrays it

Would that include you? wink

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Would that include you?

yes im sure there but nothing anyone

Jan 17th, 2015 01:04 AM

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Do you think Information will lead towards God?
I think it will. I think the more we learn the more we require less proof of His existance.

There is already ironclad proof of God's existence. It's called "creation".

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There is already ironclad proof of God's existence. It's called "creation".

i believe in god but not any religions that are practiced if that makes sense

Jan 17th, 2015 05:54 AM

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There is already ironclad proof of God's existence. It's called "creation".

Now all you have to do is prove that there was a creation. Good luck, because you will need it.

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Jan 17th, 2015 07:20 AM

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i believe in god but not any religions that are practiced if that makes sense

This is my belief as well.

It's called 'agnostic theism', if I'm not mistaken.

But my belief leans more to 'fideism' -- that faith brings about the good in people.

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Now all you have to do is prove that there was a creation. Good luck, because you will need it.

well unless a explosion of nothing brings about everything we have proof

Jan 17th, 2015 08:57 AM

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Do you think Information will lead towards God?
I think it will. I think the more we learn the more we require less proof of His existence.

Do you mean the Abrahamic God? If so, no. That's a Biblical/Koranic metaphor.

Do you mean what, eg, Abraham encountered, which in time inspired that metaphor? Yes. I believe that information, specifically self-knowledge through attention training, will reveal the transcendent Source of all things. It may take a few lifetimes, though...

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What if we eventually find the Source of All Things, then someone or groups of people will fight to acquire/contain said power for personal gain?
There'd be, like, another World War.

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What if we eventually find the Source of All Things, then someone or groups of people will fight to acquire/contain said power for personal gain?
There'd be, like, another World War.

we wnt becuz its a fact that its creation

Jan 17th, 2015 06:22 PM

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What if we eventually find the Source of All Things, then someone or groups of people will fight to acquire/contain said power for personal gain?
There'd be, like, another World War.

According to the meditative/mystical schools of thought, the SOAT is not a physical place or object. It is a state of awareness that is (in a manner of speaking) on the other, far, far side of the Thought Barrier (one's inner dialogue). It is not something that can be possessed; in fact, trying to possess it takes you further from it.

As for fighting over "God": this has been one of Humanity's favorite pasttimes for several centuries.

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Jan 17th, 2015 06:38 PM

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well unless a explosion of nothing brings about everything we have proof

The big bang says nothing about what happened before. There is a very good chance that the big bang was not a creation, but instead a change.

You should read the book The Life of the Cosmos by Lee Smolin. He presents an integrating theory about what happened before the big bang.

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The big bang says nothing about what happened before. There is a very good chance that the big bang was not a creation, but instead a change.

You should read the book The Life of the Cosmos by Lee Smolin. He presents an integrating theory about what happened before the big bang.

i dnt do theory give me answers or things that make sense

Jan 17th, 2015 08:00 PM

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i dnt do theory give me answers or things that make sense

"A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world, based on a body of facts that have been repeatedly confirmed through observation and experiment. Such fact-supported theories are not "guesses" but reliable accounts of the real world."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_theory

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"A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world, based on a body of facts that have been repeatedly confirmed through observation and experiment. Such fact-supported theories are not "guesses" but reliable accounts of the real world."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_theory

like i said gimme something without doubt that it cut clear without research bcuz you can hide info

Jan 20th, 2015 12:10 AM

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like i said gimme something without doubt that it cut clear without research bcuz you can hide info

All I am telling you is if you are going to claim a creation, then you must first prove there was a creation. I was just showing you how there could be other possibilities.

The burden of proof is on you.

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All I am telling you is if you are going to claim a creation, then you must first prove there was a creation. I was just showing you how there could be other possibilities.

The burden of proof is on you.

the proof is something can't come from nothing

Jan 20th, 2015 12:37 AM

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