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Was Satan wrong to demand equal rights in heaven?

Was Satan wrong to demand equal rights in heaven?

Heaven, from what we can speculate, seems to be a system that some would call a tyranny as no one was allowed to question anything or ask for change in leadership or policies.

Was Satan and the third of angels who rejected tyranny wrong to demand equal rights, and if so, are all people who demand equal rights on earth also doing something satanic?

Is this why most religions are reluctant to give women and gays equality? Do Christians and Muslims think equality to be evil and satanic?

Do religious people think that their Gods frown on the notions of equality of all people and is that why believers deny women and gays equality?

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Was Satan wrong to demand equal rights in heaven?

Heaven, from what we can speculate, seems to be a system that some would call a tyranny as no one was allowed to question anything or ask for change in leadership or policies.

Was Satan and the third of angels who rejected tyranny wrong to demand equal rights, and if so, are all people who demand equal rights on earth also doing something satanic?

Is this why most religions are reluctant to give women and gays equality? Do Christians and Muslims think equality to be evil and satanic?

Do religious people think that their Gods frown on the notions of equality of all people and is that why believers deny women and gays equality?

Regards

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There is no equity in heaven.


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Was Satan wrong to demand equal rights in heaven?


equal rights? satan wants to be equal with God, not with his fellow angels...

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I wonder if there's a source at all to your Satan equality claims.


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I wonder if there's a source at all to your Satan equality claims.

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There is no equity in heaven.


I know. Satan lost.

Some might see it as a win as God lost a full third of his slave angels.

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I know. Satan lost.

Some might see it as a win as God lost a full third of his slave angels.

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But you must remember that heaven is a part of this reality. It is not separate. Heaven and hell are right before your eyes.


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equal rights? satan wants to be equal with God, not with his fellow angels...


He already was equal to the angels. Scriptures say he was the best of the bunch.

She just wanted equality to be the heavenly policy.

I say she because Satan is depicted as a woman in the Vatican art.

No need to wonder why with Christian misogyny so prevalent.

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I wonder if there's a source at all to your Satan equality claims.


Why else would anyone rebel in a tyranny?

Longer lunches?

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But you must remember that heaven is a part of this reality. It is not separate. Heaven and hell are right before your eyes.


No argument on reality.

This O.P. is not speaking to reality but to the myth as
understood by Christians.

What you are expressing, Gnostics have always believed.


Jesus said, "If those who attract you say, 'See, the Kingdom is
in the sky,' then the birds of the sky will precede you. If they
say to you, 'It is under the earth,' then the fish of the sea will
precede you. Rather, the Kingdom of God is inside of you, and it is
outside of you. [Those who] become acquainted with [themselves]
will find it; [and when you] become acquainted with yourselves, [you
will understand that] it is you who are the sons of the living
Father. But if you will not know yourselves, you dwell in poverty
and it is you who are that poverty."

Most Christians are poverty.

You and I are not.

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No argument on reality.

This O.P. is not speaking to reality but to the myth as
understood by Christians.

What you are expressing, Gnostics have always believed.


Jesus said, "If those who attract you say, 'See, the Kingdom is
in the sky,' then the birds of the sky will precede you. If they
say to you, 'It is under the earth,' then the fish of the sea will
precede you. Rather, the Kingdom of God is inside of you, and it is
outside of you. [Those who] become acquainted with [themselves]
will find it; [and when you] become acquainted with yourselves, [you
will understand that] it is you who are the sons of the living
Father. But if you will not know yourselves, you dwell in poverty
and it is you who are that poverty."

Most Christians are poverty.

You and I are not.

Regards
DL


Yes!

"Nevertheless, even though you chant and believe in Myoho-renge-kyo, if you think the Law is outside yourself, you are embracing not the Mystic Law but an inferior teaching."

Nichiren Daishonin


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Yes!

"Nevertheless, even though you chant and believe in Myoho-renge-kyo, if you think the Law is outside yourself, you are embracing not the Mystic Law but an inferior teaching."

Nichiren Daishonin


Having a Christ consciousness puts the law I follow at my fingertips, so to speak. All within my mind.

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Come to think of it that may be the first death.
As far as what the Father was talking about in the second Death I think we'll all find out soon enough.


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I'd rather die than not believe in Jesus.


You sound like an extremist.


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I don't even remember what reason was given for Satan's beef from God. Wasn't it something like..God told the angels to love humans more then God, and Satan didn't like that? Or was it Satan was jealous of the attention God showed humanity?

Also this somewhat ties into my recent thread, if God truly knows everything, doesn't that mean when he created the angels he knew one of them would turn into Satan?


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I don't even remember what reason was given for Satan's beef from God. Wasn't it something like..God told the angels to love humans more then God, and Satan didn't like that? Or was it Satan was jealous of the attention God showed humanity?

Also this somewhat ties into my recent thread, if God truly knows everything, doesn't that mean when he created the angels he knew one of them would turn into Satan?


That is exactly why taking Christian mythology literally makes no sense.


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I'd rather die than not believe in Jesus.


If you believe in Jesus, and he said that you could do as much as he did and more if you believed in him, so what are you waiting for to do as he did?

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If you believe in Jesus, and he said that you could do as much as he did and more if you believed in him, so what are you waiting for to do as he did?

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Are you telling him to crucify himself?


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