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Wonder Man
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Do you think there is a reason to have positions about the world if love is not real?


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Could you, for the sake of clarity, define the use of "positions" in your statement please?


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...and what do you mean by "if love is not real?"?


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Originally posted by Shakyamunison
what do you mean?


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I think what the op is asking is:

Should we care enough to have an opinion about God's existence if Jesus as God is not real?

Wonder Man, is that what you are really trying to ask?


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Re: Positions

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Originally posted by Wonder Man
Do you think there is a reason to have positions about the world if love is not real?


Absolutely.

But do you not see the perfection all around us?

I do.

But then my God is more revealing than yours.

Jesus said, "If those who attract you say, 'See, the Kingdom is
in the sky,' then the birds of the sky will precede you. If they
say to you, 'It is under the earth,' then the fish of the sea will
precede you. Rather, the Kingdom of God is inside of you, and it is outside of you. [Those who] become acquainted with [themselves] will find it; [and when you] become acquainted with yourselves, [you will understand that] it is you who are the sons of the living Father. But if you will not know yourselves, you dwell in poverty and it is you who are that poverty."

Here is a mind exercise. Tell me what you see when you look around. The best that can possibly be or an ugly and imperfect world?

Candide.
"It is demonstrable that things cannot be otherwise than as they are; for as all things have been created for some end, they must necessarily be created for the best end.”

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Re: Re: Positions

"Here is a mind exercise. Tell me what you see when you look around. The best that can possibly be or an ugly and imperfect world?"

I see the ten worlds. Among them are the worlds of heaven and hell.

Perfection? There is no perfection, and that's perfect. wink


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My question is what is your reason for your own existance if you don't believe in love. Why do you hold positions about anything at all and if you believe in love then you certainly believe in Jesus.
The question was quite clear by they way and your attempts to avoid the answer are obvious.
Now your own science admits love is a chemical reaction but admits it is real.
Even your own logic say's Jesus is real and you still won't face it.


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Originally posted by Wonder Man
My question is what is your reason for your own existance if you don't believe in love.

You don’t have to believe in love to have a reason for existence. There are many animals (like reptiles) that do not experience the emotion of love, but still exist. However, I have to admit they probably don’t have an opinion on their existence.
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Why do you hold positions about anything at all and if you believe in love then you certainly believe in Jesus.

There are people throughout history that held positions about many things but didn’t know anything about Jesus. See the writings of Nichiren Daishonin.
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The question was quite clear by they way and your attempts to avoid the answer are obvious.

I disagree. You are obviously talking in code, so your question was confusing to anyone who did not understand your code. Even I, who understand your code, had a hard time understanding because of your poor grammar (I’m not criticizing). I even tried to clarify, but you have not confirmed my clarification. Do not make assumptions about over’s confusions.
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Now your own science admits love is a chemical reaction but admits it is real.
Even your own logic say's Jesus is real and you still won't face it.

Jesus is not a chemical love. Calling Jesus love is a code word that has nothing to do with the conventional love. I think you are confusing most people.


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My question is what is your reason for your own existance if you don't believe in love.


I have a short memory and cannot recall but babies just seem to seek life for life's sake and not some abstract love reason that they cannot fathom till adult.

Have you not noticed in your travel that life does not like a vacuum and whenever it can, even in the harshest of places that would kill you and I, life flourishes just for it's own sake.

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I have a short memory and cannot recall but babies just seem to seek life for life's sake and not some abstract love reason that they cannot fathom till adult.

Have you not noticed in your travel that life does not like a vacuum and whenever it can, even in the harshest of places that would kill you and I, life flourishes just for it's own sake.

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Positions as in your own thoughts on any subject. This thread wasn't about God before someone brought him up by the way.
I still believe love was found in the brain proves what God said about "I will golorify it again.
Love in both the brain and heart proves it totally.


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Positions as in your own thoughts on any subject. This thread wasn't about God before someone brought him up by the way.
I still believe love was found in the brain proves what God said about "I will golorify it again.
Love in both the brain and heart proves it totally.


Love is an emotion and nothing more. It doesn't prove anything.


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Are you high? Religion has nothing to do with love. Atheists can love. Love in the brain equals God? I'm legitimately wondering if you had a seizure whilst typing out your post.


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Are you high? Religion has nothing to do with love. Atheists can love. Love in the brain equals God? I'm legitimately wondering if you had a seizure whilst typing out your post.


However, it is typical of Wonder Man's threads and posts.


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Are you high? Religion has nothing to do with love. Atheists can love. Love in the brain equals God? I'm legitimately wondering if you had a seizure whilst typing out your post.


true religion is love...

"Religion that is pure and undefiled before God and the Father is this: to visit orphans and widows in their affliction, and to keep oneself unstained from the world."
James 1:27


it's just unfortunate that we are now dominated by false religions and putting the true one in a very bad light...

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... it's just unfortunate that we are now dominated by false religions and putting the true one in a very bad light...


Position decides how the light hits something. The "light" doesn't move. I believe that it is the Bible that states "by their fruits ye shall know them." What I have seen from Christianity is not something I would call good "fruit". It seems that The Bible believers have placed general "Christianity" in a very bad position with regards to light.


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I think God came to talk about love like He said He did and when we aren't doing that like Himself did that we lose our way in life.


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I think God came to talk about love like He said He did and when we aren't doing that like Himself did that we lose our way in life.


So in other words, it's all about Karma and Hedonism. Live and let live, love and let love... If you don't love, it will impact you negatively?


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So in other words, it's all about Karma and Hedonism. Live and let live, love and let love... If you don't love, it will impact you negatively?


I don't think he was saying that at all.


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