AS soon as he said "Democracy works" I laughed and stopped watching. Another fool who thinks the U.S. is a democracy instead of a republic. Not worth my time listening to that BS.
__________________ Darwin's theory of evolution is the great white elephant of contemporary thought. It is large, completely useless, and the object of superstitious awe.-Dr. David Berlinski, Philosophy
Most people believe Evolution not because they themselves are dumb, but cause they trust the "experts" who are feeding them evolutionary fast food, and so they don't bother questioning whether or not it's true.
Perhaps he does but when people say that they lose all of my respect and I don't care about anything else they have to say, tbh, because they're part of the problem. Perpetuating the lie (just like so many movies and the media does) that we're a democracy when we're clearly not.
"Democracies work". LMAO. Riiiight. Our founding fathers knew how democracies always tended to have short violent lives so they gave us a republic instead which is much superior to a democracy.
__________________ Darwin's theory of evolution is the great white elephant of contemporary thought. It is large, completely useless, and the object of superstitious awe.-Dr. David Berlinski, Philosophy
Most people believe Evolution not because they themselves are dumb, but cause they trust the "experts" who are feeding them evolutionary fast food, and so they don't bother questioning whether or not it's true.
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Clay Christensen does very good, groundbreaking work in his field of business. His books should be required reading for anyone managing a company or parts of a company.
But I don't think that makes him any more qualified than anyone else to talk about Religion. His premise that only Religious institutions provide the morality to make a country function is just blatantly false. Atheists and non-Religious people have the same levels, if not superior levels, of morality and empathy than Religious people. If he had just limited himself to talking about the aspects of personal morality in the functioning of a country, I'd agree with him, but he conflates morality with religion, and that's just false.
It's funny how this guy is making the same argument that Marty Hart made on True Detective about the value of religion. If we remember Rust's response to him: " If the only thing keeping a person decent is the expectation of divine reward, then, brother, that person is a piece of shit"
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“Where the longleaf pines are whispering
to him who loved them so.
Where the faint murmurs now dwindling
echo o’er tide and shore."
-A Grave Epitaph in Santa Rosa County, Florida; I wish I could remember the man's name.
Rust was just a generally "I hate life" kinda guy. His argument posed an inherent contradiction. With that said, this is the greatest scene in any true detective season and rivals some of Tarantino's work.
And I agree with bardock, I don't think that only religion provides morality. It just goes back to the moral absolutist vs. moral relativist argument, without there being a middle ground.
__________________ There's a man goin' 'round takin' names.
An' he decides who to free and who to blame.
Everybody won't be treated all the same.
There'll be a golden ladder reaching down.
When the man comes around.
Ppl are naturally good or naturally pieces of shit. Going by your statement, the good will be good regardless and the pieces of shit can be kept decent by "divine reward". Win-win imo.
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Rust's comment was pretty over the top lol. You could see the anger in his eyes towards the religious crowd. Great stuff from M.M. though.
__________________ There's a man goin' 'round takin' names.
An' he decides who to free and who to blame.
Everybody won't be treated all the same.
There'll be a golden ladder reaching down.
When the man comes around.
I'm not a big fan of religion, but he's got a point. Some people cannot control themselves without thinking a skydaddy is watching and waiting to punish them for doing bad things.
People need some kind of moral framework, but it doesn't have to come from religion. Look at China, Chinese people aren't constantly murdering, robbing, and butt****ing each other in the streets, and very few of them practice religion.
__________________
“Where the longleaf pines are whispering
to him who loved them so.
Where the faint murmurs now dwindling
echo o’er tide and shore."
-A Grave Epitaph in Santa Rosa County, Florida; I wish I could remember the man's name.
So I guess every single person in prison right now in America is an atheist. Interesting.
__________________ Chicken Boo, what's the matter with you? You don't act like the other chickens do. You wear a disguise to look like human guys, but you're not a man you're a Chicken Boo.
Uh technically nobody is constantly murdering, robbing, or butt****ing each other on the street. We might as well say everyone who is has mental issues because it's such a small portion of the population.
__________________ There's a man goin' 'round takin' names.
An' he decides who to free and who to blame.
Everybody won't be treated all the same.
There'll be a golden ladder reaching down.
When the man comes around.
It just sounds like he is saying society might fall apart due to lack of religion.
__________________ Chicken Boo, what's the matter with you? You don't act like the other chickens do. You wear a disguise to look like human guys, but you're not a man you're a Chicken Boo.
He talks about how people began to follow these rules because they weren't just accountable to society, but also to God. He talks about what will happen to democracy if religion is gone. This is all said over images of violence, etc.
How do you expect someone to interpret his basic message?
__________________ Chicken Boo, what's the matter with you? You don't act like the other chickens do. You wear a disguise to look like human guys, but you're not a man you're a Chicken Boo.
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