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Hitmonchan vs Hitmonlee

Both at level 100, and their stats are at peak-condition.

Who wins?

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Hitmonchan, as a boxer, is tough. he would take one or two kicks from Hitmonlee to get in close and hit him with hundreds of punches very quickly. Hitmonchans pokedex entry says he punches so fast that it looks like he is not doing anything. That takes a punchingspeed near lightspeed. Hitmonlee may be tough, but 10 punches should be enough to knock him out, and hundreds of Hitmanchans is overkill. But Hitmonlee could play it smart with some Ninja maneuvers. Like poisoning Hitmonchan.


Hitmonchan 6.5/10

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Are these just wild Pokemon or do they have trainer?

My guess would be whoever had the better trainer.

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My guess is that they're the ones the fighting gym trainer had in Blue and Red, except this time they had much more training.

If so, they draw.


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Originally posted by Xenogears
My guess is that they're the ones the fighting gym trainer had in Blue and Red, except this time they had much more training.

If so, they draw.


i think boxers are all-around better fighters than ninjas. More brute force, and in Hitmonchans case, speed. Hitmonlee shold not be too much of a challenge

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In real life, boxing is a "top tier" style. Neo2000, you have to remember that this is a video game. In video games, any style can win. Actually, it's usually the ones that prove ineffective in real life that work the best in video games.

I agree with Xenogears. It's a draw unless trainers are involved.

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Boxing top tier, I would love someone to only use boxing in a Street Fight.

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Actually, it's usually the ones that prove ineffective in real life that work the best in video games.



SYSTEMA. . .


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Boxing IS top-tier.

And these Pokemons trains by themself, they can fight wel even without trainers. Hitmonlee may kick harder than Hitmonchan punches, but remember, Hitmonchan can land hundreds of punches a sec. He needs to take one punch, get close, and punch the shit out of Hitmonlee. Should be simple logic.

Through if Hitmonlee made some smart combinations of Double Team, Toxic and Mirror Move, he could stand a good chance, through this technique only would work with a trainer.

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Actually, Hitmonlees moves reminds me ore of Tae Kwon Do than ninjitsu

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Boxing IS top-tier.



I take it you've never been in a Street Fight?


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I take it you've never been in a Street Fight?


I have...? And i stick to my hands, not my feet.
I am a boxer, by the way.

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When I say top tier, I don't mean boxing is the be all end all of fighting. However, a boxer will typically defeat an untrained opponent of similar stature. I've seen this personally. If you don't believe me, stop by your local boxing gym and ask them for proof.

Now when you throw in opponents with skill in some other art or a massive size advantage in a street fight, THEN the tables may turn.

Boxing is definitely top tier though. Virtually all pro-fighters crosstrain boxing to some extent.

Also, LMAO at SYSTEMA!!!!!

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When I say top tier, I don't mean boxing is the be all end all of fighting. However, a boxer will typically defeat an untrained opponent of similar stature. I've seen this personally. If you don't believe me, stop by your local boxing gym and ask them for proof.

Now when you throw in opponents with skill in some other art or a massive size advantage in a street fight, THEN the tables may turn.


Usually, karatekas or tae kwon dokas are slim in real fights, mostly because their used to respectful matches with pauses after each point and not knockout rounds, while boxers takes punishment all the time and generally builds up a stronger body. Karatekas just cant keep up for real if they dont have any experience. Talking about experience, i know that from own experience, has fought a redbelt karateka and won. And again, i am boxer. I took one kick, he was out of balance, i punches him twice in the face. The fight was over. He couldnt take the damage.

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I have...? And i stick to my hands, not my feet.
I am a boxer, by the way.


I do ametuer boxing myself, I just have a hard time believeing that a style that: Doesn't gaurd your legs, only uses hands, no ground fighting, No weapon fighting and blocking rely's on using your body like a tank can help you against multiple opponents with possible weapons. . . That's really un realistic.


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When I say top tier, I don't mean boxing is the be all end all of fighting. However, a boxer will typically defeat an untrained opponent of similar stature. I've seen this personally. If you don't believe me, stop by your local boxing gym and ask them for proof.


That wasn't my point though. Sure, in a one on one fight against some scrub a boxer has the advantage. But, do you honestly believe in a real Street Fighting or Competitve fighting situation that a boxer will dominate?


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Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
I do ametuer boxing myself, I just have a hard time believeing that a style that: Doesn't gaurd your legs, only uses hands, no ground fighting, No weapon fighting and blocking rely's on using your body like a tank can help you against multiple opponents with possible weapons. . . That's really un realistic.


That's true. Boxing is not effective against multiple opponents. Through one-at-one, it hangs up there with Muay Thai as the best martial art style.

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That's true. Boxing is not effective against multiple opponents. Through one-at-one, it hangs up there with Muay Thai as the best martial art style.


Right, which is why we see so many Boxing purist in MMA?
Your exaggerating, I like boxing because I love using my hands when I fight. Though, as a fighting art it's not practical for Street Fighting or MMA. Also, there is no such thing as a best style.


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Right, which is why we see so many Boxing purist in MMA?
Your exaggerating, I like boxing because I love using my hands when I fight. Though, as a fighting art it's not practical for Street Fighting or MMA. Also, there is no such thing as a best style.


All the best cross-trainboxing because punches is the most important attacks in a fight, and in boxing, you learn finer punches than in any other sport.

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That wasn't my point though. Sure, in a one on one fight against some scrub a boxer has the advantage. But, do you honestly believe in a real Street Fighting or Competitve fighting situation that a boxer will dominate?

No, obviously pure boxing won't cut it in a no holds barred situation.
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Usually, karatekas or tae kwon dokas are slim in real fights, mostly because their used to respectful matches with pauses after each point and not knockout rounds, while boxers takes punishment all the time and generally builds up a stronger body. Karatekas just cant keep up for real if they dont have any experience. Talking about experience, i know that from own experience, has fought a redbelt karateka and won. And again, i am boxer. I took one kick, he was out of balance, i punches him twice in the face. The fight was over. He couldnt take the damage.

Most "krotty" places are bullshit. There are a select few who get good training and know what they're doing though. I guarantee that few, if ANY, pure boxers could have defeated Andy Hug when he was alive. I doubt any boxers could take Glaube Feitosa or Francisco Filho now. Don't forget Bill Wallace from the 60's either.
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That's true. Boxing is not effective against multiple opponents. Through one-at-one, it hangs up there with Muay Thai as the best martial art style.

Boxing and Muay Thai are "top tier". There are various others that can compete with them.

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All the best cross-trainboxing because punches is the most important attacks in a fight, and in boxing, you learn finer punches than in any other sport.


Keyword, Sport, sure Boxing helps you develop a good punch, But if you honestly believe that a good punch is all you need in a fight. I suggest you give up fighting now.


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Most "krotty" places are bullshit. There are a select few who get good training and know what they're doing though. I guarantee that few, if ANY, pure boxers could have defeated Andy Hug when he was alive. I doubt any boxers could take Glaube Feitosa or Francisco Filho now. Don't forget Bill Wallace from the 60's either.

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Or Mas Oyama, hence why Kyokushin Karate is the best form of Karate.

I also doubt a Boxing purist can defeat Sakabura.


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Yeah, its true only a few boxers have control of what theyre doing, but those who have control, they are dangerous.

I never gets hitted. When boxing, i am normally hitted 5 times through a whole six round fight, and deals around 40 punches myself each round.

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