The "only harmed by light sword/arrow" thing is removed, to make the actual discussion fair, or that'll be all we'll be hearing from those that is for Ganon..
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Baal can use Decrepify to slow and weaken Ganon to a crawl, he can then teleport toa distance and fire his one shot blast to splatter ganon
other ways baal can win:
Baal can use teleport then call up all his tentacles, if Ganon stops flying or gets close to the ground at all, hes toast and will be smotherd, Baal can use the same skills Decrepify to slow Ganon to a crawl, then he can use fire/ice if he doesnt want to use his one shot beam.
Baal can clone himself, that means Ganon will be looking out for 2 Baals, 2 baals that can do 1 shot kill move ,2 that can Decrepify and etc etc, a blood mana would be a powerful weapon as well, any spell ganon tries using will damage him.
Invulnerability is the most useful power he's ever demonstrated in a game.
Also, unlike a character in a role playing game, he doesn't have a wide array of defined moves.
However, he has a source of infinite power to call upon in the form of the Triforce of Power.
It's understandable that people have a problem with the "only hurt by the master sword" ability, but simply put, if he weren't evil, he'd be totally invincible.
Removing that ability is like taking away Classic Juggernaut's invincibility for the sake of the other character.
Last edited by Cosmic Cube on Nov 6th, 2007 at 11:02 PM
thats kinda the idea isnt it, if the character is invulerable in the fight, like kain is an invulerable charcter, then its not a fight at all. But kain among many have twists so they can be fought, invulerability is cheap.
also stop overating the triforce of power, all this infnite power rubbish, its shown no such powers of greatness at all, the only true powerful is the fully formed triforce which seems (from what ive heard) give the user any wish they like.
Removing his invulnerabiltiy if functionally depowering him. It may be cheap, but so is superspeed, and time control. It's a part of the character.
I am not overrating the Triforce of Power. The Triforce of Power is the essence of Din, Goddess of Power (whom actually has infinite power.) While it doesn't grant omnipotence like the entire Triforce, it certainly does grant him virtually unlimited magical power and superhuman strength. It is also what makes him invincible.
You're a bit misguided. The Triforce of Power is what transformed Hyrule into the Twilight, and turned everyone therein into diembodied souls. It's immensely powerful.
Last edited by Cosmic Cube on Nov 6th, 2007 at 11:53 PM
2. Lol what? If you don't know anything about it, why do you even have an opinion on it? That same ToP is what made Ganon what he is, it is unlimited mystical power, bestows great strength and superspeed, and makes you invincible. As CC said, if Ganon were good, he WOULD be completely invincible. The ToP's power once corrupted the entire sacred realm, into an evil one. That is just one feat.
2. i was right then, not unlimited power, unlimited magic power, unlmited power makes it sound like someone is trying to make it omniotent in power which is power without limits...i.e unlmited power
Cause Gameplay is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO slow for one thing in comparison. Ganon could blitz him, he can turn intangible, and as for freezing Ganon, Ganon froze over an ENTIRE CITY.
I never meant to imply that he was omnipotent. He has unlimited magical power, allowing him to do things like manipulate reality. He's got immense superhuman strength, so he's a match for anyone in the power department.
Basically, when it comes to power, he's got an unlimited supply.
However, if he had the entire Triforce, he'd be totally omnipotent, able to do whatever he wants.
manipulate it to what extent? has he ever deleted someone from reality or done somthing on MJJ level or close?, is it conistent power without plot devices, can you prove it if you claim he has done these things?
so would anyone with the entire Triforce.....including me
I don't see why anyone would have an obvious win over Ganon.
It's not as though he's going to be outclassed by someone. People fail to realize that while using the Triforce of Power, he is more than a match for just about any video game character.