kain could solo this without any limitations for him, and heres why i think so
first as you say no soul combat, so basically hes invulerable in this battle, he cannot be destroyed, and the chances of him losing through knockout is unlikely due to his many support powers such as mist and teleport, bats etc to escape physical blows that would do such
Malygos is quite dangerous, breathing on kain to take away his spells, not so bad tho, his reaver still has all his greatest spells itself and so with a few dimension warping attacks (i read no dimension destroying attacks, this is just an attack using dimension energies to warp opponents), each time he slashes he is automatically making all the enemies take the same pain, damage etc, the reaver on hit can blast a man to pieces so enhanced further my dimensional energy should certainly deal incredible damage to the dragons.
Nozmordu, timeless one, he would be the 2nd dragon kain would want to kill although the timeless one is going to be the most difficult to actually kill, its quite harmless in power forgetting any of its physical attributes, after Malygos and Noz die, its likely the rest should not be too difficult.
but ofcourse kain is not alone, he does not neccerily have to fight certain ones, so he could end up keeping all his attacks througohut the battle while characters without as many spells, possibly Jedah can attack Malygos, while Demitri takes on Nozmordu allowing Kain and the other 2 (dont know these other 2 very well) to destroy the rest with full powers
Good points, but not being able to die does not neccessarily mean that the person at matter can not be defeated. There are more ways to have a character incapable of fighting, other than killing them
yes as i said underneath, i pointed out that the ways he can be "defeated", the problem is, to defeat kain you would have to make him incapacitated, thats either trapping him in something, which is unlikely, spells he can reflect with his shield, there are no permanent spells in Warcraft, and the only other way i can currently think of is physical means, which ofcourse is no use against kain, who teleports, mists etc etc to escape most moves.
The thing with the aspects, is that they cover all the fields that require guardianship.. Which means, they cover all the fields that these characters can pull out of their sleeves..
Ysera, the dreamer is the keeper of nights and dreams.. She can possibly sleep some of them.. at least Devil Jin and Ryoho.. A sleep that will tear them up from the inside.. they will be pretty crushed at mind after that..
Malygos, the keeper of magic.. He covers the elements, along with magic overall.. magical barriers, illusions, flight and different strategical motions will have most opponents forced into his "game".. As he does distractions, he can seperate them and leave each opponent to the respective dragon that could bring them down.. Of course, restraining Kain and playing Kain in his game would be tough.. but that's a fight of it's own, after the other has been rid..
As for Alexstrasza, not much has to be said.. Bringer of life, queen of the red dragonflight.. The wrath of the red dragonflight would give her the advantage in most fights.. not against Demitri though, who corrupt souls.. with her powers, she could possibly outshine Jedah, Ryoho and Devil Jin.. And with Malygos steering the seperation, Jedah would have to battle Alexstrasza.. Or Jedah would be placed at Deathwing, but that'd be to mean..
Nozdormu.. He'll beat Demitri so rough, it'll be pathetic..
Deathwing.. is this post-demon soul?
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i dont know about the others but Kain cannot be written from time, also he doesnt write time, he explores it and sends his dragon flight to destroy time traveling wizards and the dragon flight that plans on messing up time
Nozdormu doesn't simply "explore" it.. Sure, he command bronze dragons across time, but it's not because he cant do it.. it's because he doesn't have to.. the fate of time shouldn't rest in ones hands..
Nozdormu could solve the entire CoT issue out on his own, but he doesnt.. because he has faith in the other bronze dragonflights.. they are his people and they serve him loyally..
Nozdormu doesn't exist anywhere.. he exist anytime.. Sure, Kain can master time.. but not near to the same extent as Nozdormu.. and time IS the most powerful ability in a versus fight, if you ask me..
Shortly.. He is powerful.. A lot more powerful than you seem to believe..
And why cant Kain be rewritten from time?
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Last edited by Nozdormu on Nov 17th, 2007 at 01:14 AM
in that case kain will be born somewhere else as someone else who will become the immortal vampire he is today
as the guardian of balance and the scion of balance, nothing can stop kain until he does whatever he in destined to do..
edit - lemme rephrase that
basically whenever one of the circle of nine die, a new one is born instantly to replace them...even if kain were to be killed by Nozdormu, a new one will instantly be born, and will become the scion of balance..
the only way to destroy the scion of balance (aka kain) is if Nozdormu goes back in time and destroys the ancients, who created the circle of nine and thus condem the entire LOK-verse to total destruction..you reckon Nozdormu will do that just to beat kain?
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Last edited by MadMel on Nov 17th, 2007 at 01:29 AM
If kain dies (or never comes to live as it happens) he's exluded from this VS, since his replacement is not him, and it is specified as Kain in this VS who is to fight.
Level 30 ish mage solo'ed Gnomeregan, but here's the catch, he pulled all the mobs in the instance, and beat them all at the same time, lol, leveling 3 times in the process.
for none World of Warcraft players, Gnomeregan is a 5 player dungeon, thats hard for an entire group of level 34's. And thats taking mobs 1-3 at a time. This mages pulled the whole lot which is about....er....200?
I find that very hard to believe.. however, after patch, Gnomeregan was narrowed down in level.. it's no longer level 34, but a group of level 26 could easily pull the instance trough.. the mage would run out of health/mana in the process of this.. the dark iron dwarves plant mines which mean he can not stay at one location.. the goblins are ranged and they can easily use ranged to shoot a 30 down, and especially cloth..
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Doesn't matter if he can break the circle or not.. Kain is eliminated and is excluded from the fight.. However, I dont wanna use that part of fighting.. removing someone of existance at birth, kinda removes the whole versus thing.. there'll be no fight, and I have a hunch that versus fights are supposed to be.... fights..
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Nov 16th, 2007 04:27 PM
though thinking of rerolling, i hate losing to warriors all the time lol, stupid plate armor.
