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NemeBro
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Gouki vs. Cloud

Meh. I think Gouki takes this, but I was bored.

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He sure does. Cloud MIGHT have the speed edge but he's not even in the same solar system as Akuma when it comes to POWWWAHHHHHHHH!


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Indeedy doo.

Asura Senku may even give Gouki the speed edge.


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He sure does. Cloud MIGHT have the speed edge but he's not even in the same solar system as Akuma when it comes to POWWWAHHHHHHHH!


You Fail.

Cloud is NOWHERE, and I mean, NOWHERE near as ridiculous as Gouki, Cloud's speed simply does not, and I repeat, does not match Gouki's whatsoever.

In fact, Cloud's speed would not match alot of the Street Fighter character's speed. Ryu and Ken can easily, and I mean, easily dodge bullets, if you emptied a full round on Cloud, he need to parry them with his sword.

If you did that to Ryu, he would simply run foward faster then bullet time speed, dodge them with ease, and own you after.

Now, here is Gouki, someone who is far more powerful then Ryu, Gouki's speed is far greater then Ryu's not only that, Gouki does have the Ashura Warp, which would put nearly almost all speed advantage to shame.

Gouki can rip through solid steel like it where cardboard, so having the advantage of a Sword would do absolutely nothing in Cloud's department.

With this notion, Gouki would easily pummel Cloud to the ground in mere seconds. The fight would be over easily.

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Cloud is NOWHERE, and I mean, NOWHERE near as ridiculous as Gouki, Cloud's speed simply does not, and I repeat, does not match Gouki's whatsoever.


Show me one canon scene of Akuma's speed.

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In fact, Cloud's speed would not match alot of the Street Fighter character's speed. Ryu and Ken can easily, and I mean, easily dodge bullets, if you emptied a full round on Cloud, he need to parry them with his sword.


Well moving a big hunk of metal the size of the Buster Sword to block a bullet be a lot harder than just moving out of the way. Or are you claiming Ryu can dodge bullets like a Matrix Agent?

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If you did that to Ryu, he would simply run foward faster then bullet time speed, dodge them with ease, and own you after.


Laughable and not provable at all from what we've seen in canon.


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Show me one canon scene of Akuma's speed.

Well moving a big hunk of metal the size of the Buster Sword to block a bullet be a lot harder than just moving out of the way. Or are you claiming Ryu can dodge bullets like a Matrix Agent?

Laughable and not provable at all from what we've seen in canon.


READ THE STREET FIGHTER CANON GUIDE you fool.

It has been confirmed by Capcom that Ryu can easily dodge bullets with ease, and Ken would be on par with the same speed, considering Ken has beaten and defeated Ryu twice in the storyline, and Ken's abilities are nearly similair to Ryu's only slightly weaker.

Gouki is almost double the abilities of Ryu, and Ashura Warp with Gouki owns actual movement speed anyday of the week, unless your going at FTL speed's, which Cloud obviously does not move at.

Gouki destroyed an entire mountain with his fist while training, Gouki destroyed an island with his fist, he split an Aircraft carrier in half while training deep under water in super high ridiculous pressure.

Gouki>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Cloud.

Again, go and google "Street Fighter Canon Guide" and read it up, Gouki is a super elite and would destroy Cloud with ease.

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It has been confirmed by Capcom that Ryu can easily dodge bullets with ease, and Ken would be on par with the same speed, considering Ken has beaten and defeated Ryu twice in the storyline, and Ken's abilities are nearly similair to Ryu's only slightly weaker.


Bullet-dodge does not equal bullet-time.

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Again, go and google "Street Fighter Canon Guide" and read it up, Gouki is a super elite and would destroy Cloud with ease.


Who said he wouldn't?


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Um. I read in a comic. that was ganon that ryu got shot protecting a fellow street fighter. Do you realize how they even Dodge the bullets. Their fighting style and they can predict the person Intentions. Also Ryu is not faster than sound. They dodge bullets by moving out of the way before the trigger is pulled. Wow @ the bullet thing. Dodging and being faster are two different things. You can dodge being hit by a car but your sure as hell not as fast as one.


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Um. I read in a comic. that was ganon that ryu got shot protecting a fellow street fighter.


No Street Fighter Comic Book in existence is Canon period. The only Canon Events are either confirmed by Capcom or else the stories that take place within the Street Fighter Storyline themselves.

I do say, I did jump the gun too quickly by saying bullet time speed, however, regardless, Any of the Shoto's, wether, Ryu, Ken, or Gouki, they would annihilate Cloud with ease.

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I do say, I did jump the gun too quickly by saying bullet time speed, however, regardless, Any of the Shoto's, wether, Ryu, Ken, or Gouki, they would annihilate Cloud with ease. [/B]

.. Regardless of how powerful Ryu and Kens martial art is, they are still human.. Cloud is a superhuman, he basically flies building to building chopping up huge pieces of concrete easier then a hot knife through butter, if Cloud is anything like Zack, he should beable to dodge the bullets by MULTIPLE machine guns with ease, 1 bullet would kill the street fighters or critically wound them, Cloud got shot point blank in the head by Yazoo and he was fine.

And even if they were faster then Cloud (which i doubt), Cloud handles people like Loz and Yazoo at the same time, Loz being far faster then any SF character.

Cloud curbstomps any SF character.

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My God you know nothing about SF.

Ryu and Ken are certainly not normal humans.

Gouki split a mountain in half, sunk an island, both with a punch, and he can take the pressures of the bottom of the ocean, and then kicked a submarine in half, while in one leap going above the surface, bringing the sub with him.

And saying Cloud can stop any SF character shows extreme bias, M. Bison tanked a nuclear missile for Christ's sake, and Gouki one shotted him.

Gouki destroys Cloud.


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Show me the comic, and prove to me that its actually the canon comic, i remember reading the supposedly canon comic online along time ago and i don't recall any of that happening.

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Wouldn't the fact that Cloud has a weapon AND Materia give him the edge over Akuma ? Ie : Doesn't matter how many cars Spiderman can lift If I prod a gun into the back of his head.


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I mean, if Clouds gots Materia he's gonna win.

But if this is just a fight between Akuma and his natural power VS Coud and is natural power (wit a sword)...the guy who split Ayers Rock wit one hand is gonna win.


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I mean, if Clouds gots Materia he's gonna win.

But if this is just a fight between Akuma and his natural power VS Coud and is natural power (wit a sword)...the guy who split Ayers Rock wit one hand is gonna win.


Umm, no, first off, the Gouki who destroyed the Entire Mountain, sunk an island with his fist, and destroyed an aircraft carrier while training deep under water.

That's a Gouki not even using his full power, so yeah even with materia, it would still be a complete curb stomp, unless with Materia Cloud is capable of clearing a mountain with his sword then he's not going to win.

Gouki is head over heel's over Cloud, considering Cloud has beaten opponents around his level who utilized Materia. Gouki is nearly 10x more powerful then Cloud on any level and that is a Gouki holding back.

"If" Gouki utilized his full potential, it wouldn't even be a match up, it would be equivalent to a human taking on a single ant.

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Show me the comic, and prove to me that its actually the canon comic, i remember reading the supposedly canon comic online along time ago and i don't recall any of that happening.
Those feats I mentioned were from the games.

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Again, show the comic, and prove that its canon.. I reccall a comic where Gouki punched and destroyed a meteor the size of the planet, but that was uncanon as well.. and i'm not sure but didn't he sink his island in the anime? The animes aren't canon either.
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Those feats I mentioned were from the games.

From which games? In his ending?

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Cloud in a curbstomp. He'd win this even with Geostigma.


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Cloud in a curbstomp. He'd win this even with Geostigma.


This has to be a joke. You heavily underestimate Gouki. Please stop being biased.


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I'm not the one who resorts to horribly underrating everything FF. Take a look at your own biases, you might be surprised at what you find. wink


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