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Sora vs Kratos

Please post who and WHY.

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Sora: can on-shot skyscrapers, defeat gods, fight armies, block thousands of lasers from every direction, defeat reality warpers, teleport, fly, use magic

Kratos: defeat giant monsters the size of buildings, defeat gods, defeat mystical beings, use magic


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Kratos: Can throw creatures the size of buildings miles away like rag-dolls, kill Gods, solo armies, deflect lightning, use magic, and has uber haxx time powers.

Sora: Can't beat a Shadow without the Keyblade, with it gives him cutting power, magic, allows him to unlock shit, and he himself is fairly fast.


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Kratos. He would rip Sora in half.


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Kratos


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Sora never intends on killing his opponents and that is one of the major reasons why Kratos owns him. Don't even add the Heartless as someone Sora kills because technically, those aren't living beings.


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Sora: can on-shot skyscrapers.


Yeah because Skyscrapers are known for their incredible durability.

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Yeah because Skyscrapers are known for their incredible durability.
...Being able to cut one in half, is actually an impressive feat considering the size of Sora's weapon he uses to do it. no expression

But alas, he did not one shot a skyscraper, he only cut a chunk of building in half.


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kratos wins in strength, durability, magic, brutality. the only thing sora wins in is speed. and im talking movement speed, not reaction speed, as kratos did block lightning, but is fairly not so fast running.

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Bloodlust is ON

Remember...I'm not saying Kratos wins, but he needed help to defeat Ares, whereas Sora defeated Hades in a cup tournament with only donald and goofy to help (who didn't really help that much :madsmile.


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And Xemnas is stronger than Hades, and Sora soloed his first form.


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Kratos. he rips him in half and has a sex minigame with him sick

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BTW, this is Kratos from the end of GOW (without that weapon he used vs. Ares or the pandora's box) and Lv. 99 Sora in Final Form w/ultima and that weapon he got from Sephy (forgot name), all magic and at his best (one shotting skyscrapers Sora, not "I need to take several hits to hit open a barrelJ" Sora)


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kratos wins in strength, durability, magic, brutality. the only thing sora wins in is speed. and im talking movement speed, not reaction speed, as kratos did block lightning, but is fairly not so fast running.


I agree with everything except for reaction speed. You must have not played either KH1, or KH2.

Still Kratos, badly.


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Sora never one shot a skyscraper.

And Kratos IIRC blocked actual lightning and deflected it, which>Sora's best reaction feats.


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Don't remember him blocking lightning.


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Fight with Zeus.


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I like the anti-KH campaign going on in games versus. It fuels the bias I guess.

And this has been done before, with one or two people having enough KH knowledge debating with honesty.

Sora's best reaction feat lies within the last few moments of the fight between Xemnas and Sora+Rikku.

If we're going to exclude every gameplay ability not shown in a cutscene or full motion video, then Kratos will win, of course, what with the numerous cutscenes he's shown in.

However, if we incorporate abilities that are obviously not bs, it isn't as one-sided as some make it seem. It isn't like Kratos will solo Kingdom Hearts at any rate, so Sora isn't going to be a walk in the park, especially not considering all the crap he's already pulled off.

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Half of Sora's "magikal feats!' are done in noncanon gameplay only segments. Cutscenes and endings are canon, gameplay is not. This has always been the rule.

Sora's feats contradict themselves anyway if you involve gameplay. That's why it's not used. Sora+ Riku can seemingly move fast enough to deflect thousands of light beams, but immedietly afterwards their swords don't move that fast at all. Contradiction. Sora can apparently fly at certain points, but when fighting some opponents he can't fly at all. Contradiction. At some points he can teleport, yet the very next moment he can not, and must walk around on his feet like a normal person.

If you want to include everything, than let's also include the fact that Sora has over and over again been seemingly "doomed" when surrounded by nine or ten hearltess max, in canon cutscenes.


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But because they don't move as fast later on, it doesn't mean they can't do it. There are many example like this. Don't know why I was about to waste my time listing some..

Sora does not learn the teleport abilitiy until a certain point in the game, and it's not like everyone thinks of doing every possible thing they can do in every match they are in. His dodging speed in the last fight was good enough that he didn't need to teleport (the reaction commands were parrys after all), and some things are done just because the makers want it to be that way. Sora+Riku not making a defense shield (which they can harness) to defend against the lasers was done for dramatic purposes, so this is like what I said in the above paragraph.

There aren't many of those...and he was never doomed when he had the keyblade (one of the few things that pose a threat to heartless) and the time he got jumped in TWTNW, it was because he was staring at Kairi's new boobage, it wasn't like he couldn't fend them off. Not that they dealed any damage in first place. laughing out loud

Edit: By include everything I mean everything they can do, inside and outside of cutscenes, not every time they were pwned/victorious.

Not saying he wins btw, to anyone else reading this.

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