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Shade Assassin. [Shadowbane] vs Altair
Shade rogue assassin with full skills and stat spread, takes place in Jerusalem, they're assigned to kill each other, and start at opposite ends with no clue of the enemy's position.
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Jul 29th, 2009 12:24 AM |
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Altair, because he's roamed the streets of Jerusalem and other cities of that area for many years.
And I don't know anything about Shadowbane.
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Jul 29th, 2009 12:36 AM |
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Shades have somethign called witch sight which makes them very hard to sneak up on, they can see what others can't, and assassins in shadowbane use magic from the 'void' to kill their victims. They can cause blindness and steal the breath of their victims.
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Jul 29th, 2009 12:43 AM |
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MooCowofJustice
Too Far Gone
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Then why did you make this thread? >_>
Altair's only chance sounds like a stealth kill, which will not happen because of the Witch Sight. So he's stuck with using his throwing knives.
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Jul 29th, 2009 12:46 AM |
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Location: 1/9.7'rd Horseman of the Apocalypse |
Because Shades aren't very durable, a bit frailer than a man, not by much.
Edit: I also gave Altair the home field advantage, and a Shade will have a harder time blending in because they're so pale with black eyes.
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Jul 29th, 2009 12:49 AM |
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MooCowofJustice
Too Far Gone
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Well, then I'm going to give Altair the win with a distanced throwing knife.
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Jul 29th, 2009 01:12 AM |
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Incanus
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Ok, im gonne give a fanboy answer and a normal one. here goes for fanboy: Altair wins because of his home field advantage, his many years of training, the fact he can jump off a roof and stab a guy in a vital organ 100% of the time, with no time to look for it, his eagle vision which sorts out friends and foes, and the fact he has many skills,m including climbing buildings, swords, short blades, his hidden blade, and his throwing knives. Also, his method of finding his targets.
normal: Altair looks cool and pwns all Templars so he pwns this guy.
wait, switch those around.
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Jul 29th, 2009 01:25 AM |
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I'm gonna give the Shade a few more wins than 50:50. The fact that it has magic on it's side and can blind Altair, makes this Shade's favour in combat.
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Jul 29th, 2009 01:54 AM |
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Incanus
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But Altair has Eagle Vision, which is something apart from his normal vision He can pick the shade out in a crowd, or still see him. And Altair would hear him as well.
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Nanye i ne Anduril i macil Elendilo
Lercuvanten i moli Mordoreo
Isil
Turgon aran Gondolin tortha gar a matha, i vegil Glamdring gud dae lo, dam an Glamhoth.
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Jul 29th, 2009 01:56 AM |
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Carpe Noctem
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Location: 1/9.7'rd Horseman of the Apocalypse |
Shade has witch sight.
Not to mention a magical bolt of cold which stuns it's target for a second.
[Edit: this thread is like my way to raise awareness of a great game which died not too long ago.]
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Jul 29th, 2009 01:58 AM |
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Incanus
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Assassins Crred never died, its still selling on shelf after 2 years of being released =-p
Altair has also shown to be fast enough to be able to avoid a sword balde, arrows, and the like. He also can react very fast, as demonstrated by his counter-kills. Fast enough to kill with a single stroke.
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Nanye i ne Anduril i macil Elendilo
Lercuvanten i moli Mordoreo
Isil
Turgon aran Gondolin tortha gar a matha, i vegil Glamdring gud dae lo, dam an Glamhoth.
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Jul 29th, 2009 02:03 AM |
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Shadowbane is an MMO from 2002 which Ubisoft provided for free until 2009. Altair was probably based on the assassin from this game, and infact, his clothes resemble the assassin armour.
Assassins in shadowbane can literally steal your breath at range, slowing your movements and killing you. Shades can see invisible and hidden enemies with witchsight, and are super-humanly agile and fast. Just a bit frail.
Edit: also, the game's lore is made of win.
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Jul 29th, 2009 02:09 AM |
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Altair has been shown to fall like, 300 feet in a free fall and live, by landing in a cart of hay. I dont think some1 so frail could do that, he would be going to the "view points" all around, and find him like that. And he would find a way to assassinate him. I dont think they based Altair off of a guy from a MMO.
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Nanye i ne Anduril i macil Elendilo
Lercuvanten i moli Mordoreo
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Turgon aran Gondolin tortha gar a matha, i vegil Glamdring gud dae lo, dam an Glamhoth.
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Jul 29th, 2009 02:25 AM |
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It's the exact same company, and his outfit resembes the assassin armour. Just thought I'd highlight that Altair is the spiritual descendant of shadowbane assassins.
Annd, he can fall as far as he likes, empty lungs are fatal.
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Jul 29th, 2009 02:27 AM |
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True, but he has shown the ability to be able to strike silently, lethally, 100% of the time, in a way that no one notices. How would the assassin see him comiing from above him, when his blade is 1 inch from his jugular? He could even walk up to him, as Altair also can blend into any crowd, and not be seen as an enemy, even by alerted guards right next to him. The shadow assassin would have to be a Templar to see him anywhere. Otherwise, the blade goes into his neck or stomach. You are also forgetting, Altair lived during the crusades, when a guard see this assassin of yours, he would attack it calling it a demon, because pale skin+ black eyes +highly religious guards= a demon being attacked.
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Lercuvanten i moli Mordoreo
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Turgon aran Gondolin tortha gar a matha, i vegil Glamdring gud dae lo, dam an Glamhoth.
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Jul 29th, 2009 02:30 AM |
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Carpe Noctem
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Witch sight alerts shades to the presence of everyone around him, as soon as Altair jumped off of the ledge, the Shade would already be reacting.
Assassins in SB can also use magic to become literally invisible.
This demon angle may be a problem though.
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Jul 29th, 2009 02:32 AM |
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Eagle vision pretty much see the souls of people. Thats how he can tell friend from foe just by looking around. And you still havnt explained how he can avoid being called a demon. He wouldnt recognize Altair either.
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Nanye i ne Anduril i macil Elendilo
Lercuvanten i moli Mordoreo
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Turgon aran Gondolin tortha gar a matha, i vegil Glamdring gud dae lo, dam an Glamhoth.
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Jul 29th, 2009 02:33 AM |
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Carpe Noctem
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Location: 1/9.7'rd Horseman of the Apocalypse |
As per the OP, he knows who Altair is, as he's assigned to kill him. He'll recognise Altair. Witchsight ensures that he'll see Altair before Altair can attack.
Also, Shades are rumoured not to have souls, according to the Ubi chronicle.
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Jul 29th, 2009 02:37 AM |
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Incanus
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Hmmm. I dont know how to rebuke that, but I must say you have made a good case. But you forgot one thing: It dose not say he knows who he is, just that he is assigned to kill him. Can the Shade react in time to stop the blade that is 1 inch from his stomach? I would give Altair the advantage due to the fact that he would know who the shade is when he looks through eagle vision. I dont think a rumor can be used in a versus fight. It would not be considered real.
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Nanye i ne Anduril i macil Elendilo
Lercuvanten i moli Mordoreo
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Turgon aran Gondolin tortha gar a matha, i vegil Glamdring gud dae lo, dam an Glamhoth.
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Jul 29th, 2009 02:40 AM |
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Well, there's debate over whether Shades have souls. The reason they exist supposedly, being that they're born to human parents, is that the void devours their soul before they're born.
And when woudl the knife get that close to the Shade? and how would a Shade be assigned to kill someone if he didn't know who they were? o.O
They'll spot each other at range, then the fight begins. I give it to the Shade mor e often than not because of magic.
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