well ar ewe considering the liquid ocelot from MGS4? becasue if so, my hat goes to liquid. and in all fairness the fight betweeen Solid and Liquid was before CQC came into the picture. And in MGS 4 Solid shows a few nice CQC moves against normal guards and soldiers but against a trained CQC person, he failed hardcore.
But the Boss was also the originator of CQC and showed up Big Boss on numerous occasions...
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Big Boss would've been killed when he got throwed off the bridge.
Nevermind. Did some research, and I never played that one, so I wouldn't know (and wasn't he old?). Is at why Snake got CQCed in MGS4? Besides, Big Boss CREATED CQC.
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Last edited by iChaos on Nov 27th, 2009 at 03:30 AM
Snake never faced him with CQC. In Metal Gear, he had superior weapons while Metal Gear 2 made no sense (unless you find it acceptable that a cyborg lost to a soldier using a lighter and a spray can).
Boss would beat Big Boss all throughout the MGS3 UNTIL bis boss decided he had to end it. Boss loses fair and square. Ocelot was trained by big boss. Ocelot/ Liquid in mgs4 own Solid Snake.
I think its very reasonable to think that Liquid could beat boss in a strict hand-to-hand fight. CQC or not liquid is a clone of Big Boss. I dont know exactly if they inherited all of Big Boss' skills or not, it seems they did in the games, so i would say liquid knew CQC. All im saying is that in MGS4 there is no comparison. Liquid would win, but it would be very close.
And no Big boss was not old when he fought the Boss
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well, liquid loses in terms of technique rather badly but he's got insane endurance. the real question is can Boss put the hurt on him given that all the shit he went through in MGS1 barely hurt him at all.
car crash>arm toss
and Big Boss defeated Boss fair and square. it was a moment of passing on the torch and BB took it from her. it wasn't handed to him. Boss didn't comit suicide.