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Lars vs Kazuya

They were evenly matched in tekken 6 but didn't finish the fight. Also Lars put up a fight against Jin.
Who takes it?


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lars is the better fighter

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Based on what?


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Mishima-blood only they drawed but once Kazuya utilizes the devil gene, Lars goes to sleep via Kazuya's telekinesis, i.e. he get's effed.

Lars is the coolest Mishima. He was my first main in 6. Gameplay-wise Lars also wins. It's amazing how many things he's done in just one game (scenario campaign intro and all cutscenes in between, but the intro has most of it and the best of him) that pretty much make it seem like he's the strongest Mishima, but looking back at what the others has done he's actually the weakest (when we consider Mishima heritage AND devil genes). He has better Mishima-blood showings then Jin and Kazuya, and is pretty much on par with Heihachi overall when we consider all the attributes of a fighter. Heihachi's mostly durability as far as we've seen. Lars was unscratched by an exploding missile and a self-destructing Jack, blitzed soldiers fast enough they weren't even able to shoot him with automatic rifles and broke the ground just shoving a soldier's head in it.


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I mean regular Kazuya no devil power ofcourse, that would've been a stomp. Lars did beat Heihachi a,nd stalemated Kazuya. But even though he didnt get to finish the fight with Jin, it was clear imo that Jin was winning.


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Read the edit by the way. I like to know people read my finalized posts. smile

IMO Kazuya. Even though they're brothers I think Kaz is old enough to be his dad laughing, so in other words more experience fighting. As a matter of fact I heard Namco first though of making him Jin's brother and not Kazuya's, and also changed Leo's gender along the way laughing. No one even knows Leo's gender now. All this time I've been saying I want to do her/him/it! ninja


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laughing out loud Dont worry about that, never thought id say something like that about someone who's name is "Leo" but he/she looks kinda hot laughing out loud Also imo it woul've been better if he were Jin's brother. How many brothers does Kazuya need sigh...


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That sounded like you were implying Kazuya already has a number of brothers, which I think he doesn't.

IMO it's more interesting it's Kazuya's brother. Jin's brother...lame. Besides, in the scenario campaign Jin was all like "damn you're dumb, she (Alisa the robot) was created to serve me", Lars then was like "NOOO!" and this is Jin's UNCLE, lmao. Heihachi just probably had him...way late. Say between T2 and T3 (the gap there is at least 20 years IIRC). In other words he went to some European country and got it OWWN ninja and actually Lars confirms the nationality of his mother when he speaks to Heihachi, but I totally forgot that part of the campaign. Shit was a long adventure...

Yeah man, I don't care about Leo's gender anymore. That thing is hot in such a feminine way it doesn't matter what you say. laughing out loud

:edit: that rhymed and I didn't even try to rhyme


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laughing out loud True. I was talking about Lee, not a number but that's enough imo even though he's not his real brother, as far as I remember Hachi adopted him, no? Jin pwning his uncle WAS kinda funny heh Kazuya was pissed he has a brother. And what he said was badass and sad..


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What did he say again?

Also Lee doesn't count as a brother IMO. He's just a white-haired punk in Tekken..although he's amped as hell in Tekken 6 gameplay. No srsly wtf. Lee players are insane.


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What did he say again?

Also Lee doesn't count as a brother IMO. He's just a white-haired punk in Tekken..although he's amped as hell in Tekken 6 gameplay. No srsly wtf. Lee players are insane.
He said something like it's their family tradition to betray and try to kill each other before leaving. You gotta give Lee credit though, he gets to do Anna and apperantly Nina..


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Anna is a ho foo. Also yeah...damn I hate Lee now. sad

Yeah I guess that was sad. No family love. Boohoo.

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I mean regular Kazuya no devil power ofcourse, that would've been a stomp. Lars did beat Heihachi a,nd stalemated Kazuya. But even though he didnt get to finish the fight with Jin, it was clear imo that Jin was winning.


If we go by the gameplay and the fact that Alisa was there then do we say that Lars beat Heihachi with her help?


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If we go by the gameplay and the fact that Alisa was there then do we say that Lars beat Heihachi with her help?
I dont think we should take the gameplay into account. I mean during the gameplay Heihachi had like a dozen fighters backing him up. What matters - Heihachi himself admitted tha Lars was the one who overpowered him during a cutscene. I dont think he would've said that if it was a 2 on 1 battle.


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Lol @ people backing up Heihachi. Tbh though, although ZED has a point, those people could just be there to increase difficulty. As far as I know there are more/less depending on which difficulty you choose, so I think it's safe to say none backed up Heihachi. I don't think they were originally there when the fight started or even in the cutscenes. I think they just popped into the scene during gameplay stick out tongue, but this could all be wrong, as it's been a month or two since I played campaign and I've been so into online and customization now that I barely remember campaign. Oh and the fact you have to equip items to have their respective abilities SUCKS. This basically means you CAN'T have YOUR personal customized character with all the traits you want him or her to have (more health, strength, etc.) without shitty items you will most likely not like. If you happen to like them, well than that will be a rare coincidence. Actually when you get an item I think a RANDOM trait is equipped to it each time you earn it, so you can just keep selling the items you want to equip on your character, keep re-achieving them in campaign mode until they are assigned (randomly) the trait you want it to have so your character can have it.

But of course if you're going to use the default official look, you get nothing. Even with custom hair or colors for clothes, nothing. You're forced to play on Medium mode and even then it is not enough to beat stages like the Yoshimitsu and Devil Jin one. Those are beast...and ridiculously hard without uber items (that end up making it easy even on Hard mode).


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The stage where you have fight Alisa is the one I hate the most. There's just no way you could beat her without the recieved items. Too little time.


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Not really. Devil Jin makes it so easy. She hardly ever ducks the laser.

In fact Devil Jin is the reason I was able to beat campaign in a few days.


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Not really. Devil Jin makes it so easy. She hardly ever ducks the laser.

In fact Devil Jin is the reason I was able to beat campaign in a few days.


It is literally impossible to beat campaign mode with Devil Jin. You have to beat the campain mode to unlock the nightmare train first.


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No bro...guy's right. you can choose any character you want to play as before you start the campaign at all, of course any character OTHER than Lars. Alisa of course you can't choose.

Which is why on my character selection list (before I beat any of the campaign stages) the only ones there were Lars and Devil Jin. Had I picked someone other than Devil Jin from the beginning (when it allowed you to pick any ONE character to start off with) it would be Lars and that any one character I picked. Luckily I happened to pick Devil Jin who makes campaign mode easy. You can one shot 4-8 people with Hellfire Blast (by simple pressing both punch buttons).

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Not really. Devil Jin makes it so easy. She hardly ever ducks the laser.

In fact Devil Jin is the reason I was able to beat campaign in a few days.
Never tried it with DJ, gonna try now. Cleared most of it with Lars, I dont even like him or his fighting style that much, but he's supposed to be the main good guy of the story so..


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No bro...guy's right. you can choose any character you want to play as before you start the campaign at all, of course any character OTHER than Lars. Alisa of course you can't choose.

Which is why on my character selection list (before I beat any of the campaign stages) the only ones there were Lars and Devil Jin. Had I picked someone other than Devil Jin from the beginning (when it allowed you to pick any ONE character to start off with) it would be Lars and that any one character I picked. Luckily I happened to pick Devil Jin who makes campaign mode easy. You can one shot 4-8 people with Hellfire Blast (by simple pressing both punch buttons).
I like DJ but he's such a cheater big grin It's always fun flying around and blasting everyone with laser from far away.


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