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Kefka and Kain vs. Sephiroth and Raziel

This battle takes place in Edge from FFVII:AC.

For what it is worth all characters are fully powered.

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Whos Kefka, the magic dude? god of magic? or is that kedaj? ime terrible with some FF names.

Are there any corpses in this battlefield? ergo, can Raziel resurrect?


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Whos Kefka, the magic dude? god of magic? or is that kedaj? ime terrible with some FF names.

Are there any corpses in this battlefield? ergo, can Raziel resurrect?


Kefka is the guy who can shoot massive lasers out of his hands. The God of Magic person.


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Obviously team 1 then, they have two superior characters to team 2. Sephiroth cannot match Kefkas power, Raziel cannot match Kains statistics in almost anyway.


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Kefka was able to split the world in half, wasn't he?


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Obviously team 1 then, they have two superior characters to team 2. Sephiroth cannot match Kefkas power, Raziel cannot match Kains statistics in almost anyway.


Lolz Team 2.

Kefka is not more powerful then Sephiroth, magically or in melee. Raziel is enough to mess with Kain for a bit while Sephiroth kills Kefka then Kain.


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Why didn't Sephiroth attach All Materia to Black Materia, then it would have summoned a meteor for each enemy!!

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Not sure, needless to say team 1 wins. Sephiroths silly swordplay does not help him, and considering he has few feats of strength, if any the chances are he will never pierce Kain or deal any damage to him.


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Team one wins, imo. Seph has insignificant magic feats compared to Kefka.


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Does Sephiroth have any half useful magic feats? all he does is swing a sword around......FF7's apprently strongest character is a shemale with some speed under his feet and a sword....

Yep, he dies with ease.


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Best feat is definitely not Supernova...


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I'm going to determine this based on the FF characters, since Kain and Raziel just seem to go back and forth with each other with no real victories.

Sephiroth is incredibly powerful, he is not only the most talented swordsman in the FF omniverse, he has a magical attack that can break down dimensional barriers and hit you with the power of an expanding star. Kefka, however, is the god of magic, the very source that all magic flows from in his universe. He can nuke large cities anywhere on the world from his tower with a simple blast of his Light of Judgment, he constructed a huge tower overnight from rubble from all over the world magically, and he has the power to rearrange the continents. Sephiroth is good, but Kefka is that much better, if he wanted to he could just make his own Supernova spell because he is magic's wellspring.

It wouldn't be a stomp by any means, but team one has a clear advantage.


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It wouldnt be a stomp, Sephiroth has nothing he can do other than die.....


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No, Kain has absolutely no chance.

The only one that would offer some kind of fight would be Kefka and Kefka has no way to defend against Sephiroths speed, agility and strength. Magically Kefka is pretty crazy yes, but Sephiroth is even moreso, without his NL.

Remember Sephiroth can move planets.

Kefka could also be affected by illusions.


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Why didn't Sephiroth attach All Materia to Black Materia, then it would have summoned a meteor for each enemy!!

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lol Sephiroth couldnt hurt Kain, he would break his sword on his skin and would have to re-create it. Kain on the other hand would spray his blood all over the show through Tk alone, or just bust him with spells.

Sephiroth uses an extremely long process from controlling a planets life force (liifestream) to wiping out the main sentients and cities with meteors. So no, in this fight he is not moving any planet.s


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Remember Sephiroth can move planets.



i lol'd


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Lol. Safer Sephiroth and ACC Sephiroth can move planets soz bro.

A. He used controlling a planets lifestream to grow more powerful, before going off to his perfect place.

B. Meteor was gonna be used to bring out a mass amount of lifestream so he could absorb heaps and become powerful.

If he wanted to move the planet he could have, just like Jenova did.


What toughness feat are you using for Kain to be that insane?

Spray Sephiroths blood? Like that would kill him, he was stabbed through the spine and that just made him annoyed, in his weakest form. He also created three beings, he could just recreate his blood. If he even requires blood.

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Why?


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Why didn't Sephiroth attach All Materia to Black Materia, then it would have summoned a meteor for each enemy!!

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Lol. Safer Sephiroth and ACC Sephiroth can move planets soz bro.

A. He used controlling a planets lifestream to grow more powerful, before going off to his perfect place.

B. Meteor was gonna be used to bring out a mass amount of lifestream so he could absorb heaps and become powerful.

If he wanted to move the planet he could have, just like Jenova did.


What toughness feat are you using for Kain to be that insane?

Spray Sephiroths blood? Like that would kill him, he was stabbed through the spine and that just made him annoyed, in his weakest form. He also created three beings, he could just recreate his blood. If he even requires blood.


Your making this up, Jenova moved planets, it was never specified how until we found out Sephiroth needs to weaken the planet enough and take control of the lifestream.

Its been mathed, Kain can take thousands of tonnes of PSI. Sephiroth does not have thousands of tonnes in his little arms....his blade would also be too long, the PSI would be divided by the length of Sephiroths sword therefore Sephiroth would need to impale Kain (useless tactic, Kain would not even be amused) to have any hope of piercing Kains skin.

What all his blood pouring from his body would not kill him? meh....also when was he stabbed through the spine? Kain can lose his whole heart..

edit: Kain uses time aura, teleports next to Sephiroth who stuck helplessly in time, cuts Sephiroth into piecies and takes his spirit. (FF seem to be double screwed by Kain, as apprently their entire bodies are made out of spirit energy/lifestream).


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When it comes to being durable, Kain doesn't **** around (even if he was KOed, lol).

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Excuse this reply because I'm horrible with Final Fantasy facts. A have very little knowledge of Kefka and its implied in other forums that Sephiroth hasn't used his full power in Final Fantasy VII. The potentialy really stupid question I ask is what's stopping Kefka's from destroying Sephiroth? He pretty much became a god in Final Fantasy VI so what's keeping him?

You can ignore this question if you want.

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Nothing m8, nothing, the only person who would probably argue are the people who want Sephiroth to win even if he has no feats to help him.


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