This is from dante's inferno. Both characters only have their trademark weapons and skill here. It's scythe vs. blades. Both are told they will get their loved ones back if they prevail. Kraots gets his family back while Dante gets Beatrice back.
What the hell is Dante going to do to stop Kratos? iirc hes not much better than a normal man in most cases other than some interesting special moves against demons who physically appear much stronger than him. Kratos is far beyond him.
I disagree. He isn't some normal man. A normal man doesn't stomp death right after he was killed/wounded. A normal man isn't referred to as being the best by Lucifer in realsing his true form. He went through hell and stomp everyone in his path and the enemy he fought at the end was far more than any boss Kratos or Kain faced off against.
No hes not, Lucifer is not beyond any of their opponents. Infact the Lucifer Dante faced was a minor threat to both Kain and Kratos by far, Lucifer did not employ powers or size or strength beyond that which the former mentioned have already surpassed.
Dante is not much better than a normal man, I am sorry but I will give you that hes stronger than a normal man, can jump higher than typically possible but other than that, its his weapons like the holy cross and deaths scythe that make him. A lot of Dantes journey is conceptual, e.g his feats of overcoming his own sins such as greed, traitor etc are all more important here in Dantes list of feats but are not that gaugable to Kain and Kratos.
Dante's greatest strength feats is equal to Kratos's less impressive ones and Death's Scythe does things that the Blades of Chaos/Athena/Exile could do (besides stretching and forming into a spear). The Cross can easily be Golden fleeced or dodged. The magic that Dante has over Kratos is the Divine Armor since it makes him invincible and allows him to absorb damage. Sins of the Father can help since it homes but I'm sure Kratos can deflect it. Martyrdom, the AoE spell, is too risky as he risks losing health when he uses it.
Kratos can summon spectral Spartans to shield him and rain arrows in the area, summon the souls of his enemies, summon quakes with his onyx-smashing gauntlets, and shoot waves of electricity that send Dante into the air. There's also the Blade of Olympus.
Kratos wins but not easily because of Dante's spells and durability (in the animated film, he withstood Lucifer's fiery whip and an explosive flame blast which slammed him into a far wall).
DI Lucifer is far weaker than the Biblical or DC Lucifer. At most, he's as powerful as Zeus when human-sized.
Not to mention Dante didn't even kill Lucifer at all, he basically just managed to re-imprison him and escape. Even then, Dante failed to seal him off completely as the ending obviously shows. But then it also shows that there's obviously more in store for the series, whereas Kratos' story is as of now resolved, and his fate is left open. Although there will be the interquel coming out some time in the future on the PSP.
Lucifer took Beatrice's soul while being imprisoned. If we're counting the animated movie, he even tortured her. Hades hasn't done anything when he was in the stomach of Cronos.
Dante's a good guy, noble, just and all that. He's also clearly above a normal human.
The fact that he comes back from a fatal stabbing basically in the upper spine and kills Death during the attempt of capture is a great feat. But what would you call that? Would you call that regeneration? Even though he takes the knife out it was still a fatal wound, but he managed to survive somehow.
Still, I can't see him beating Kratos. If he can win, that wouldn't upset me because he's just so damn likable.
Did you play the game? Do you think he magically transported somewhere without doing anything. Luicfer compliments him, and that's that?
Bt, did you play the game? Now if the answer is no then it's hilarious that you throw your opinion around so much without even having played the game. It makes you sound like you're so biased you already are saying Kain wins before we even tell you who he's facing off against.
He wasn't even damaged really and had a scythe sticking into him and laughed off death's main weapon like it was a minor irritant. Kain meanwhile gets ko'd by Raziel by ripping his heart out while Lucy is faking he's even in trouble at this point just to mess with dante.
No, we actually see him take on huge threats so we are taking the game as is. You stop at nothing to downplay everyone else outside of Kain don't you?
I wouldn't like to ruin it especially since you have the game. It's a very quick beat if you play the game a lot.
Lucy would stomp Hades. I mean pwn him and then some. Hades went down very easily while Lucy was unkillable even despite the plot device at the end.
I don't think so it's different than the game. The game is canon to the gaming universe whereas the movie is canon to the movie universe. There's even a comic out.
No I didn't play the game, and I don't plan to. But you treated tricking Death and getting commended by Lucifer like they were feats. I pointed out that said things don't matter.
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They were. Right after he's killed/injured he beats the crap out of death and takes his weapon. He was compared to some of the greatest characters in history such as Lancelot and he was the best. He is every bit good enough to challenge Kratos.
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May 26th, 2010 06:36 PM
Oh I see.
Being compared to the greatest warriors in history isn't a feat?
