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Final Destination [Maximum] Vol.9 Bowser X Kain

What ever version of the characters you want, at full power, versus one another.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjb9Kxb1TFI#t=50s

EDIT: Also, this thread has been done multiple times.


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Bowser for obvious reasons.


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Bowser has survived black holes in at least two games.


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Both because Nintendo does not understand how black holes work so...not too impressive. stick out tongue


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Both because Nintendo does not understand how black holes work so...not too impressive. stick out tongue
I highly doubt no one at Nintendo has any idea that blackholes = bad for you. erm


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Super mario galaxy? are the stars not crying little things as big as a mans chest with faces? not too interested about the black hole thing, I am probably more interested in:

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjb9Kxb1TFI#t=50s

EDIT: Also, this thread has been done multiple times.



Whats happening here?

Probably nothing Kain cannot bypass easily.


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No, those are lumas, the black hole in question nommed on a galaxy or more. He tanks another black hole in Bowser's Inside Story.


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Show me these black holes please, I have seen what passes for a planet, a sun etc in Mario galaxy, I want to see what passes for a black hole in galaxy and bowsers inside story.

Not that it will help him.

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Apprently the Galaxies themselves are not really galaxies:

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The galaxies in Super Mario Galaxy are notably much smaller than real galaxies, often being comprised of nothing more than a few small planetoids, most of which are in all different shapes and sizes. They are more comparable to systems such as the Solar System.


So I would say the whole "black hole nommed a galaxy or more" leaves out a lot of important information.


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It consumed the entirety of the final galaxy. It's plenty enough to keep Kain from ever dreaming of hurting him.


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The pull of that galaxy seems to be equel to the pull of a giant faucet plug or something because Mario seems to just be floaitng there so considering it cannot even suck down a man its overall mass must be tiny, if it was high its gravity should have ripped him into piecies or at least in the cartoon world swallowed him quickly but mario seemed at ease. You could say the same fro all those tiny little planetoids I guess.

Also I doubt anyone tanked anything, anyone going into the black hole seems to be saved/reverted to normal by whoever that fairy thing is.

Either way I still find it amusing when you sit there argueing a pure physical feat against Kain who you should know by now hardly has nothing but physical strength at his disposal, I could probably choose any spell from his list and it would defeat bowser, mind control, rip out his soul etc.


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I highly doubt no one at Nintendo has any idea that blackholes = bad for you. erm


In Galaxy, it seemed like they thought a black hole was a big pocket.

In Inside Story, Nintendo was under the impression you could grab onto the sides of a black hole.


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I think its clear these blackholes are nothing alike to the real thing, same with the planetoids and the suns/stars. You cannot argue from the perspective of how a real blackhole, sun, planet is measured when thats not the case.


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Psuado black hole, thats all.

And the yellow/green and red guy with claws wins.


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Whats happening here?

Probably nothing Kain cannot bypass easily.


That is Bowser catching and holding a massive iron ball. I remember BloodRain and I both calc'd it being in excess of 6000 tons. Somewhere on this page.

Mario and Luigi and amped his arms for the throw, but catching and supporting the weight is all base Bowser.


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Well at the moment the math is unimportant to me, if Bowser lands a hit on Kain he can throw him through the air. Not too useful and he struggled too.

So Bowser has no special abilities you can bring up? only strength or durability?


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TBH energy wise Bowers strength is literally a thousandfold that of Kain's.

No other special abilities 'sides flame breath, teleportation and apparently a limited gravity control come to mind. Though obd says his speed is between Kain's and supersonic... didn't see that coming, but disagreeable as consistently his speed is meant to be on par to below Mario's.

His SMG/2 feats would be with Grand Stars powers.


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A black hole is a black hole. From my limited understanding of them, size doesn't really matter, since what defines a black hole is a gravitational pull strong enough to pull in light.


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(...)since what defines a black hole is a gravitational pull strong enough to pull in light.

Except in this case they either can't pull in the castle surrounding it and gets grabbed by its evet horizon, or one that cant pull in debris which is clearly in its grip.


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TBH energy wise Bowers strength is literally a thousandfold that of Kain's.

No other special abilities 'sides flame breath, teleportation and apparently a limited gravity control come to mind. Though obd says his speed is between Kain's and supersonic... didn't see that coming, but disagreeable as consistently his speed is meant to be on par to below Mario's.

His SMG/2 feats would be with Grand Stars powers.


He needs more strength than Kains, or even a thousand times to damage Kain however. Wheras Kains strength is irrelevent, his powers supercede physical durability or outer shells by assaulting whats inside your body (blood) or inside your spirit (soul).

Although, I would like to see your calculation on Bowsers potential energy. For one thing, I would like to see his consist speed, and how he usually implements his strength. If his full body can just about hold up this ball which you claim to be 6k tons (not sure how you got that but I will argue that if I dont like it later) and then he implements a slow attack (marios speed?) with a fist (a square foot of area perhaps? not sure how big he is, or his hands in this match, some bowsers are different) then we can find out how much energy he can implement in one punch (one hand).

Once we have that info, we can argue from there, although I will be away from tomorrow until sunday night/monday morning due to work so if you want to argue this you have a fair amount of time.

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A black hole is a black hole. From my limited understanding of them, size doesn't really matter, since what defines a black hole is a gravitational pull strong enough to pull in light.


It matters, trust me. Also I am not sure if light was even absorbed because we can clearly see the black hole. It should be completly invisible.


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