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Kazuya Mishima vs M. Bison

Kazuya is from Tekken 6 and at 70%, he can use his devil form if nessicary.

Bison is from SF IV and at 50% (as result of being brought back to life).

Both have no backup.


Who wins?

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Unless there's more to bison i don't know of (shin or whatever next level of power) i'd go with kazuya... But interesting match... Maybe SFxT will help shed some light here in the near future stick out tongue

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Vega even in his weakest incarnation (i.e SF II) was able to hold his own against Ryu, Ken, Chun-Li, Guile and Cammy all at once plus he took on a city block leveler Kikosho at point blank range without suffering any lethal injuries whatsoever, and even after that he yet managed to fire a giant energy dome likely more powerful than the attack Chun-Li fired against him prior to his escape.

SF IV Vega of course is stronger and should have no problems handling Kazuya or any Tekken character for that matter.

P.S Crossover games in general are non-canon, so saying SFXTK or TKXSF could help answering any questions involving debates betwen Street Fighter and Tekken characters is fallacious to say the least.

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I think too that Vega has greater powers than Kazuya.

And, if I'm well informed, Kazuya is full of hate, rage, etc. Since Vega's psycho power relies on negative emotions, does Dicatator can mind screw Kazuya and make him his thrall?


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I wouldn't go that far.


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@SG Woah, woah... Easy there, haha... smile I posted that because the OP stated kazuya ''can use his devil form if necessary''... Giving him more of edge in power, strength, and abilites... also, bison's at 50%.... Oh and btw, about the TxSF thing, yeah i was being sarcastic.. Hence the '' stick out tongue '' (in case u misunderstood) smile

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That post was not meant to you in particular, but to anyone that could eventually bring up a cross-over and try to pass it as legit. And the Bison I mentioned in my post was him at 50%. Kazuya still has nothing over it, not even in devil form.

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So.. Have you seen kazuya in devil form yet? And what can bison do at 50% that's so amaizingly powerfull?

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Aside from the flight the only thing Kaz gets in his devil form is that eye-beam. And 50% Bison was dealing with five of the strongest fighters of the SF II cast in one of the official prequel trailers for Street Fighter IV.

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Aside from the flight the only thing Kaz gets in his devil form is that eye-beam. And 50% Bison was dealing with five of the strongest fighters of the SF II cast in one of the official prequel trailers for Street Fighter IV.
Bison cant beat 5 strongest SF fighters or even 2. And holding his own against some doesnt translate into him beating Kazuya.
Kazuya also has a powerful tk and apparently a tk protecting field. And that's not full Devil mode either.
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Not gonna side with anyone here because how the hell do you quantify % of a fighter?


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Re: Kazuya Mishima vs M. Bison

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Bison is from SF IV and at 50% (as result of being brought back to life).

Both have no backup.
Bison aint at 50% in SFIV, he's at 75 and Shin's at 100%. Normal Alpha's assumed to be at half and SFII (when the prequel trailer took place) is assumed to be at 25.


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Bison cant beat 5 strongest SF fighters or even 2. And holding his own against some doesnt translate into him beating Kazuya.
Kazuya also has a powerful tk and apparently a tk protecting field. And that's not full Devil mode either.
The fact Bison was able to hold his own against Ryu, Ken, Chun-Li, Guile and Cammy all at once tells quite a bit on who should win this match considering Kazuya would have been finished pretty quickly if those five ganged up on him.

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Actually in Devil form he might be able to hold his own for awhile against the team. But the thing is "holding ones own" against teams is usually overrated. That doesnt mean he can beat any one of them 1 on 1. Ryu alone has the potential to take him.


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Ryu alone has never beaten Bison.


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Never said he did.


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Devil Kazuya 10/10x's.


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Aside from having the flight and lazer beam thing, kaz still has that TK thing, and even without all of that, is skilled enough to give him a hell of a fight, and is arguably more durable... And that's without going devil...

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Bison in a depowered state still survived an attack that would have killed even Heihachi, who is more durable than anyone in Tekken. And he held his own against five of the strongest fighters in the SF II cast each of them being more than capable of giving Kazuya the fight of his life and even beat him.

Also I would still say Ryu > Kazuya.

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Out of the 5 people listed the only one who can beat Kazuya is Ryu (probably). Maybe (and its a very big stretch) Ken.
I'll say this again, teams job. Every one on the team members can put up a fight against Bison and he wont stand a chance against all 5 of them going all out. Being a bad guy he can hold his own against the heroes at best. Also Heihachi isnt the most durable character, id say he's the leaset durable out of 4 top dogs.


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