...One Royal Red Guard and Commander Thire. Kar beat Mace once and lost to Mace once so he is somewhere around Mace's power so he's probably somewhere around Sidious's power (I'd say a little weaker). Sora is a bit further behind Sidious in terms of power, though alone he could last a little while. The Royal Guard is a very minor threat to either Kar or Sora. Thire is a bigger threat than the Guard. Thire was the Clone who found Vader on Mustafar and was leading the search for Yida's body. He is an ARC trooper and a Shock Trooper. He lead the battle on Courscant, alone with Commander Appo, when it was invaded by Grievous.
Still, Thire wouldn't be to much trouble for someone like Sora or Kar. Together I'm sure Kar and Sora'd beat Sidious. But this battle could go several different ways. Depending on how it played out either team could win, IMO. However, I'd give tha advantage to Kar and Sora. But it depends on how it goes.
1) Sora vs. Sidious while Kar fights Thire and the Guard. This depends on if Sora can hold off Sidious for long enough for Kar to defeat Thire and the Guard. I'm not sure about this one.
2) Kar vs. Sidious, which would depend on if Sora could defeat the Guard and Thire before Sidious defeats Kar. If it went like this I think Kar/Sora'd win.
3) Sora vs. Thire and Sidious while Kar deals with Guard. While Kar'd beat the Guard in about 3-5 seconds Sora'd have to put all his concentration on defeating Sidious and would probably get shot from behind by Thire. Then Thire and Sidious'd beat Kar. If Kar was the one fighting Sidious and Thire Sora could probably beat the Guard in 4-8 seconds. Kar could probably hold Sidious and Thire off for that long for even if he got hit he's tough enough he could probably plow through his pain.
4) Sidious and Guard vs. Sora while Kar fights Thire or Kar vs. Sidious and Guard while Sora fights Thire. Not sure about this one.
I think that Sidious and company would win. Kar defeated Mace only when Mace was trying to keep everyone alive. When armed, Mace defeated Kar quickly by using the Force. I can imagine Sidious defeating him in the same way.
I don't think you're giving the Royal Guard enough credit. It could take something like 20 seconds for Sora to beat one, maybe thirty. I would bet that within this time, Sidious could take Kar and then go help finish Sora.
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Seriously, the Guards arn't that strong. If Yoda can take 2 in under a second without drawing his blade Sora should be able to beat one in around 5 seconds with his blade ignited. Unless you think Sora's less than 5% of Yoda.
It is doubtful that Sora will throw them against the wall like that. It also seems like that is an outlier powerwise. Sidious killing 3 Jedi Masters is an outlier, same with two being thrown against the wall. Generally, they are better than that.
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As to this fight, Palpatine and his possy. The ARC, contrary to some peoples' rather close-minded beliefs, is not a greater threat than the Red Guard. There's a reason that they're trained from birth to be the Empror's/Chancellor's personal guards, and it's not because they can be bested by a clone.
The clone will harass Kar from a distance for a matter of seconds before it is sliced apart. Meanwhile, Bulq will likely be preoccupied with the guard. For a swordsmaster of Sora's calibre, this won't be much of a challenge.
As for Sidious. Easily the most powerful person here, he'll be able to use his loyal underlings as Renegade-fodder while he blasts away at Kar and Sora from a distance. He'll be able to decimate either of them in both melee and Force contests.
So, chances are that while Kar tears apart the ARC and Sora pulverizes the guard, Sidious will take a moment to do his little cackle, then proceed to blast one of them, most likely Bulq, with Force-lightning, tossing him into a wall. He'll then finish Sora's crippled form with a clean cut, and then engage Kar, who'll have just finished flooring the clone. I'm confident that the Sith Lord will use both his dueling abilities and his impressive Force mastery to stave off Kar's flurry, and defeat him.
LOL, right, whatever Fannus, more people voted for the ARC in the ARC vs. Magnaguard thread anyway. I've just read The Best Blades. Dude, Alpha's strong as hell. Not as strong as a Royal Guard. LOL! Dude, Yoda wasted two guards with a wave of his hand! He was kore hard pressed than that to defeat standard clone troopers in the temple.
Right. Did they ever do anything besides get wasted by Yoda?
I'm sure someone as strong as Sora will be able to see it coming in time to block it.
Nov 23rd, 2005 08:00 PM
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