Registered: Apr 2005
Location: Jedi Academy on Yavin IV
Please, people like you should stop ruining topics. God, all this "Who would win, 90 jawas or 80 jawas plus R2D2" threads are getting extremely annoying, ridiculous, and stupid.
Anyway, how did those Dark Jedi get "all these weird lightsabersand stuff?" They had... Uh. Normal lightsabers. I don't know what you're talking about. o_O
Anyway, it would appear a lot of you don't know much about Kyle, but trust me, he's probably, at JO/JA time, just a little above an even match for AOTC Obi-Wan, considering he allowed himself to use both sides of the Force (while still following the light path) and was a bitchin' saberist who took out two extremely powerful Dark Jedi, many many other Dark Jedi, took out an Imperial Remnant Admiral and his ship, along with hoards and hoards of Stormtroopers, took out seven other extremely powerful Dark Jedi in the past, took out the Imperial Moff at the head of the Dark Trooper project, and single-handedly stole the Death Star plans that came in oso handy.
... Hell, after thinkg about all that, I'm sure he would win. AOTC Obi-Wan would put up a good fight, but he just wouldn't be able to keep it up...
Registered: Apr 2005
Location: Jedi Academy on Yavin IV
Uh... But those AREN'T ordinary Dark Jedi. You've never even played the game, apparently. <_< Here, let me post some basic descriptions of the seven Dark Jedi Kyle fought. I got this off of Wikipedia.
Yun
Yun is very eager to learn and to apply his knowledge of The Force and his force skills in combat. He is a skilled fencer and has almost learned to master the skill of Force jumping.
Pic
Unlike Gorc, Pic is small, fast, and mobile as well as immensely aggressive. It is Pic that takes care of all conversation and other tasks that require some intelligence. Most of the time, he sits on Gorc's shoulder, using him as a means of transportation.
In combat, Pic relies on his mobility and Force powers of cunning and prefers to attack opponents immobilized by Gorc. Pic also has the ability to vibrate his body to the point of being invisible to aide in his attacks against his foes.
Gorc
Gorc is huge, slow and heavy, preferring not to engage in conversation, which he leaves to his brother. He is the less aggressive of the pair, but that does not make him any less dangerous.
While different in every sense, Gorc and Pic form a symbiosis in combat, Gorc relying on brute force and immobilizing Force powers so that Pic may rush to attack their opponent, which the player will experience when they attack him simultaneously in the same level.
Boc
Boc is a male Twi'lek with pale skin, reddish eyes and dressed in ragged clothes. He is portrayed in cutscenes in the game as a slightly mentally deranged individual who seems to find amusement in destruction and violence.
His fighting style is described as unorthodox and unpredictable. He is the first official denizen of the Star Wars universe that wields two lightsabers in combat (thus preceding Anakin Skywalker in his duel against Count Dooku in Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Clones). By 1997-standards, his combat style is rather impressive and effective. His main strategy in combat is jumping about incessantly.
Maw
He is short-tempered and tends to go berserk if facing too much pressure. Maw relies solely on his strength and aggression rather than any technique, and he tends not to block opponents' attacks; but when he manages to do it, his blocks are almost impenetrable.
In a duel with Jedi master Qu Rahn, Maw was severely injured, losing both of his legs. The legs were replaced with a mechanical floating device that enables him to use a devastating spinning lightsaber attack.
Sariss
She is quiet and reserved, but a formidable opponent in combat and is deemed the most skilled lightsaber fighter of the seven Dark Jedi, relying almost exclusively on her fencing skills instead of using additional force powers.
Jerec
Physically blind, he perceives the world around him thanks to the Force, similarly to Darth Traya (he is able to do this because he is a Miraluka, same as Visas Marr). Serving the Galactic Empire and the murderer of Morgan Katarn, after the fall of Palpatine his goal was to absorb the power of the Valley of the Jedi and begin a new Empire.
Jerec was trained by Palpatine under Darth Vader along with a number of other dark students in an attempt to ensure the Dark Side's reign over the galaxy should anything happen to either Vader or Palpatine. Jerec often studied from one of the Emperor's many Dark side texts, the enormous Dark Side Compendium (which Luke Skywalker would later study from at the tutelage of the reborn Emperor, on Byss).
Also, he reached this point, before Kyle used the Jedi technique to cut their enemies off from the Force, although Kyle's was much weaker and very temporary:
and for one lucid moment, absolute omniscience was his. The will of the Force, Chaos, the ancient civilizations of the Rakata and Xim, what lay beyond the galactic barrier, and the origins of the universe - - Jerec understood them all, and endowed with Force powers beyond imagination, he would have ruled accordingly.
Anyway, I don't know about you, but those don't sound like "average Jedi" to me...
Registered: Feb 2005
Location: The Dark Side of the Force
Katarn has this.
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I'm sorry, your incorrect here, played this game a few years back, also note, I like the way you fail to understand generalisation and hyperbole, both used for dramatic effect mind you, in standard english.
So, as I'll say; stop trying to be smug. Pic and Gorc were in the game as Dark Jedi, and I hope you'll be able to make the inference that they are, and "my god. Jedi Knight blah blah (I actually cant remember what one it was; i'm that scene...) was a crap game...
And I played it when it came out and it seriously sucked then. It's a game. Obi-Wan would win.
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Last edited by exanda kane on Dec 6th, 2005 at 08:07 PM
Registered: Feb 2005
Location: The Dark Side of the Force
I'm sorry, but games are part of the EU, and never was JO or JA contradicted by a more canonical source. So the general events of JO or JA are still part of the story. And If you're gonna say "OMG JO and JA sucked therefore Obi-Wan wins" then you're submitting to logican fallacy. This is like saying KOTOR sucks, therefore Jar Jar would pwn Revan.
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In fact you miss understand me. I lost interest therefore merely added that Obi-Wan would best him.
I was implying that these Dark Jedi should actually in contradicted in style as they are just not Star Wars. Pic and Gorc belong in Mad Max! They are not 'real' in the star wars sense, so an uber video game character killing characters as badly designed as that should not be placed upon Obi-Wan dishing out maximum ownage to many bad fellows in the films.
It is a fault of the Jedi Knight series for being overly liberate with a Star Wars license.
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