Call it blasphemy, but since Sidious is referred to as "the greatest master of evil ever to use Sith power" as of Attack of the Clones (and, bear in mind, this was before he made any noteworthy political achievements - such as conquering the galaxy, the destruction of the Republic and the Jedi, and the formation of the Empire) - I have to assume that it is a reference to outright power, which would make Sidious as of AotC and RotS as more powerful than Ragnos, which would mean that Yoda is also more powerful than Ragnos - which means that Dooku or Mace could arguably beat the guy.
Assuming that a good counterargument is made, however, he would probably make it - unless it's DE Sidious. Then he dies there.
So I take that as a yes? Interesting. But again, I wouldn't mind debating that Ragnos, although unknown, is second only to Sidious(which I have only recently conceded).
Makes it to 9, if that's DE Sidious, if not he might make it, not sure. How much rest does he get? Why's that list to f*cked up, anyways? How are Fisto or Plo above ROTS Kenobi?
Meaning he's the evilest, not neccessairly the strongest, though, right?
being the most powerful of the ancient sith. You know, those guys that other sith lords go to and learn from that want to become exponentially more powerful. This forum sure went from ancient sith fanboyism to anti ancient sith fanboyism.
And yet this makes him better than Vader how? He is very powerful no doubt, but he's not a God. I mean, Sidious is better. And in that case, Vader, Yoda, and Mace could probably take him...
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How so? What does "frightening grasp/surpassing command of the darkside" mean to you? We know he knew the Nihilus drain technique as his scepter had it. All we know is DE Sidious was the most powerful sith ever, that's it. But Vader taking him? Mace? Come on. Yoda would have a chance.
So he's basically the strongest of the ancient sith? proof? And just by being an ancient sith, he's automatically as strong as the Top Sith tier: sidious, revan, kun, bane, and vader?
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He was the greatest and most powerful of the ancient sith, and yes, I think that would put him above every one of those characters except Sidious who was stated to be the greatest and strongest ever. He ruled for over a century with an IRON FIST. You tell me the last time a mediocre character ruled over an empire that thrived on deception and weakness, etc.