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vader11
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Dooku team vs Jedi team

Dooku, Vos, Sora, Asajj, GG, Durge, Jango vs Yoda, Mace, Anakin. All at their Peak.

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Jedi. Very tough fight man for man, but Yoda is too versatile and could potentially take out 4-5 of Dooku's team mates before they could even get into melee, where he would proceed to beat down whoever came after him.

I made a thread like this, but, it may have been kind of one sided. It had Obi Wan instead of Yoda, and more Dooku thugs minus Dooku.


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Originally posted by jollyjim311
Jedi. Very tough fight man for man, but Yoda is too versatile and could potentially take out 4-5 of Dooku's team mates before they could even get into melee, where he would proceed to beat down whoever came after him.

I made a thread like this, but, it may have been kind of one sided. It had Obi Wan instead of Yoda, and more Dooku thugs minus Dooku.

That means Yoda can take out 5 of Dooku's man in less than 10 seconds? I don't think so. Indeed, Dooku can go fight Yoda with 1 or 2 of his men's help. While other fight mace & Anakin.

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Originally posted by vader11
That means Yoda can take out 5 of Dooku's man in less than 10 seconds? I don't think so. Indeed, Dooku can go fight Yoda with 1 or 2 of his men's help. While other fight mace & Anakin.


I said potentially, meaning he could, though, he probably wouldn't. WIth just a massive force push he could probably take out Dookus entire team, minus Dooku. Why?:
- Jango (no force defence, he's toast)
- Greivous (no force defence; blasts him back a kajabillion feet or it could outright kill him)
- Durge (no force defence; temporarily, he'll come back, but, he will be down for a little bit)
- Asajj (was brought to her knees by Dooku using one finger)
- Sora (was punked by Dooku with the force)
- Vos (Same as Sora)


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Dooku and Jango could take Mace. Greivous and Asajj could more than likely take Anakin after a moderate duel. Yoda will be able to hold off the rest but not before Dooku and Jango come over and help.

I dont see the Jedi winning. There are simply to many on Dooku's team.


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Wow, there's to many factors here to judge accurately, and this breaks the rules and will likely be closed. But Dooku + Vos together could take Yoda, Grievous and Asajj togetehr could take Mace (see the Grievous and Asajj vs. Mace thread) and there's no way in hell Anakin is going to be able to take out Durge, Sora and Jango, 3 on 1. So Dooku's team wins.
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but Yoda is too versatile and could potentially take out 4-5 of Dooku's team mates before they could even get into melee, where he would proceed to beat down whoever came after him.

What? No way, your kidding, right? Yoda's good but there's no way he could beat down even Vos (who's likely the weakest of the bunch) very quickly.
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I made a thread like this, but, it may have been kind of one sided. It had Obi Wan instead of Yoda, and more Dooku thugs minus Dooku.

Yeah, and pretty much everyone agreed that it was overkill and Dooku's thugs win.
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WIth just a massive force push he could probably take out Dookus entire team, minus Dooku. Why?:
- Jango (no force defence, he's toast)
- Greivous (no force defence; blasts him back a kajabillion feet or it could outright kill him)
- Durge (no force defence; temporarily, he'll come back, but, he will be down for a little bit)
- Asajj (was brought to her knees by Dooku using one finger)
- Sora (was punked by Dooku with the force)
- Vos (Same as Sora)

1. He could probably Force Push one of those guys, maybe 2, but not all of them at once.
- He could Force Push Jango easily but it wouldn't take Jango down for more than 10 seconds.
- Grievous has the blood of Syfo Dyas in him to protect him against Force Attacks, someone as strong as strong as Yoda could Force Push him but it wouldn't take him down for more than 10 seconds.
- Asajj was brought down by a Dark Side power than Yoda will definitely not use, plus she didn't even try to resist the attack.
- Durge won't be down for more than 10 seconds.
- Yeah, with Force Lightning, after how many minutes of dueling?

Jim, what makes you think that Yoda could Force Push them all at once and what makes you think that a Force Push will take them out for such a long time?


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Originally posted by jollyjim311
I said potentially, meaning he could, though, he probably wouldn't. WIth just a massive force push he could probably take out Dookus entire team, minus Dooku. Why?:
- Jango (no force defence, he's toast)
- Greivous (no force defence; blasts him back a kajabillion feet or it could outright kill him)
- Durge (no force defence; temporarily, he'll come back, but, he will be down for a little bit)
- Asajj (was brought to her knees by Dooku using one finger)
- Sora (was punked by Dooku with the force)
- Vos (Same as Sora)


They are not all stand at the same point! They are supposed to be widely spreaded & they fight in a open area. Even after the force push, you think they would all dead immediately?

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Jedi. i mean, 3 of the best jedi at their peak against opponents that are far weaker. Yoda could easily take on Dooku while Anakin and Mace defeat the others without much diffculty


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Originally posted by Riverollv
Anakin and Mace defeat the others without much diffculty


Are you kidding? How can Mace & Anakin beat Vos, Sora, Asajj, GG, Durge, & Jango without diffculty? GG & Asajj at peak would beat Anakin. Vos, Sora, Durge, & Jango together would definitely beat Mace.

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I have a hard time judging these fights, due to a power gap that seems to fluxuate a lot. I mean, you would think that Kit Fisto, Agen Kolar, and Seasse Tin would factor into a fight with Sidious, but, they were lambs for the slaughter. Kolar beat Vos. Sora is about even with Vos. Shouldn't Yoda, Sidious' equal, be able to kill them off the bat? Asajj, too, for that matter.

It all depends how you look at it.


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The way I look at it is that the Agen/Saesee/Kit fight is bullshit and try to ignore it. I know it's canon but I still ignore it when at all possible.


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Originally posted by jollyjim311
I have a hard time judging these fights, due to a power gap that seems to fluxuate a lot. I mean, you would think that Kit Fisto, Agen Kolar, and Seasse Tin would factor into a fight with Sidious, but, they were lambs for the slaughter. Kolar beat Vos. Sora is about even with Vos. Shouldn't Yoda, Sidious' equal, be able to kill them off the bat? Asajj, too, for that matter.

It all depends how you look at it.

The 2 Jedi seems not so well prepared for the sudden attack of Sidious, & Kit can stand at least 10+ seconds against Sidious. Small area is also a factor make Kit to lose. I also think Sidious's attack are more unpredictable than Yoda's. At this time, all people in Dooku's team are well prepared for the duel. I just can't believe Yoda can kill 3 or 4 of them in 10 seconds. Yoda would probably need to fly in the sky without touching the floor all the time in that 10 seconds...

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Originally posted by darthsith19
The way I look at it is that the Agen/Saesee/Kit fight is bullshit and try to ignore it. I know it's canon but I still ignore it when at all possible.

I agree.
The 3 Jedi need to die fast because of the storyline...
In a real fight, they can stand a lot longer.

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[QUOTE=8489147]Originally posted by vader11
[B]Are you kidding? How can Mace & Anakin beat Vos, Sora, Asajj, GG, Durge, & Jango without diffculty? GG & Asajj at peak would beat Anakin. Vos, Sora, Durge, & Jango together would definitely beat Mace. [/B


hmm, yeah, maybe i exaggerated, i admit it. But still, they win, though with difficulty as you said

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The way I look at it is that the Agen/Saesee/Kit fight is bullshit and try to ignore it. I know it's canon but I still ignore it when at all possible.


That would make things easy, but it happened because they just couldn't contend. It makes you believe that there's a huge power gap that seems to be inconstant.


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hmm... but it still seems very unrealistic... cmon... theyre not THAT weak


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Originally posted by Riverollv
hmm... but it still seems very unrealistic... cmon... theyre not THAT weak

Ya, actually the fight with Sidious is totally unrealistic. It is only due to the need for the storyline. (Cmon, how can kolar just stand there & let Sidious to kill him?)

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Exactly


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I think the "Grievous having Syfo Dyas blood" part is un-canon actually....


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Originally posted by darthsith19
The way I look at it is that the Agen/Saesee/Kit fight is bullshit and try to ignore it. I know it's canon but I still ignore it when at all possible.


Fisto is my favorite charachter in all of Star Wars =( I almost cried seeing him get slaughtered so easily.

Grievous: He has special magnets down on his feet, so if their at a metal area, no force push will get him down. If not, he can dig his claws into the ground to withstand force push.



Dooku and Assaj vs Yoda (He holds off)

General Grievous, Durge, Jango vs Mace (He's not god, he would loose after a decent fight)

Vos, Sora vs Anakin (Holds off)

Then GG, Durge, and Jango go to help Assaj and Dooku, and they kill Yoda. And then the whole team goes on Anakin and he gets pwned.


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