Anakin Skywalker, Count Dooku and Mace Windu versus Yoda, Sidious and Obi-Wan Kenobi, all from their ROTS appearance. The fight takes place in Geonosis Arena and it is a Lightsaber match ONLY.
Which team wins?
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team 1. Anakin takes OB1, Windu takes on Sidious, Dooku fights Yoda. OB1 would probably lose first, then Anakin could help kill another one then pwn the one who's left.
I don't think a 3 on 3 would be quite that simple. I doubt each combatant will just find an opponent, and stick to them until one of them dies, it's much more likely that opponents would constantly be switched around, and teamwork would be a much bigger factor. Nobody can really predict exactly how the fight would go down, but I really do doubt it'd be that simple.
Team two takes this. Regardless of what anyone says, Obi-wan beat Anakin once and there is no reason to believe that he can't do it again. With Anakin it's the simple trade off that if he is using the DS he can't think strait and when he's not Obi-wan is superior through sheer skill. Obi-wan takes Anakin.
Then you have Yoda. He can take anyone here in a lightsaber fight and will probably go after Mace, who is the next most dangerous opponent here. Yoda takes him after a long, hard fight.
Finally, Sidious holds off Dooku for long enough to get help. I don't think Sidious could take Dooku in a one on one fight without use of Force Powers, which this fight states he can't use. However, he will have backup with plenty of time to spare from Obi-wan and Yoda. Dooku goes down. Team two takes the cup.
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Actually, there is, Glentract. Simply because you are so naive as to not even see them doesn't mean they're nonexistent.
For one, it's a completely different setting. Obi-Wan's plan to combat Anakin had been to give ground, and to distract him, so as he didn't come full force. "Anything to distract him; anything to slow him down", I believe that's exactly what the RotS novelization says (and indeed, it does).
Now, when in the arena floor on Geonosis, there's virtually nowhere to run, unless you go up into the stadiums, which wouldn't be nearly as dangerous, or hindering as the type of things Obi-Wan had done on Mustafar were (i.e. lava skating, platform jumping, rope fighting). It's fairly clear that none of the tactics Obi-Wan were using could be put into effect here. And giving ground as he had to do wouldn't be nearly as effective, if at all. Which is a point that detracts from your statement that 'there's no reason to believe he can't do it again', seeing as the environment alone took up a gigantic percentage in Obi-Wan's victory.
Secondly, to add to that point, Anakin had seemingly the upper hand in that fight before they had delved into their whole ridiculous escapade. His melee attacks were far more efficacious than Obi-Wan's, he had him in the dragon sleeper for some time, which had Kenobi feeling the bones in his forearms bending, and his kicks were potent and consistent. Compared to Kenobi, who only got one good trip in.
Given the setting, there's definitely reason to suspect the outcome won't be the same.
Bullshit, Glentract. Anakin, no matter light side or dark, is always superior to Obi-Wan in dueling prowess. You're basing this off what, exactly? That he beat him? Right, because he really did defeat him in a straightforward, no games duel. Perhaps if he had, you'd have a point, but he didn't - so you don't.
Obi-Wan is only superior in tactically thinking over Vader, hence why he won. And there's nothing to indicate Anakin's ability with a blade decreased since the opening duel of RotS. Obi-Wan had intimate, firsthand knowledge of Anakin, which would be why he lasted far longer than Count Dooku, and used the terrain to his advantage, which like previously mentioned, there's not much benefits the setting gives in this scenario.
Vice versa, rather.
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Last edited by Advent on Mar 31st, 2007 at 06:31 PM
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Well by using the uber logic in here, Mace beat Sidious once so there's no reason why he cant do it again. And he beat him in about the same amount of time that Dooku held off Yoda in AOTC, so if he takes out Sidious he can help Dooku. Or if in this setting, Anakin takes OB1 more quickly that OB1 beat him in ROTS, then he could help one of the other two. The way i see it, Yoda ends up getting double teamed and eventually beaten, not pwned at all, just beaten.
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Advent and Darth Subjekt are the only people here who think Team 1 would win??? Well they would. Anakin has too much raw fighting ability than Obi-Wan can handle. Mace dominated Sidious without using the force at all. And Dooku would be able to hold off long enough for Anakin and/or Mace to come in and vanquish Yoda.
Final Score: Team1: 3
Team2: 0
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Yoda goes for Dooku, Sidious and Mace start to fight and Anakin and Obi-Wan go at it. In the flat ground of the Geonosis arena Anakin would beat Kenobi, but only after a long duel. But Kenobi may have a chance if he jumps into the "bleachers". Either way that would be a close duel, though I'd give Anakin the slight edge since he's stronger than Kenobi and only lost before because he made a mistake.
Mace and Sidious lasts a while - Mace evetually disarms Sidious and knocks him on his back, but then Sidious defends himself with the Force.
Dooku goes down first. Then Yoda rushes over to help Sidious. Together they pwn Mace.
Then, they go help Kenobi and together the trio wtf pwn Anakin. If Kenobi's already dead, then they still take Anakin.
If Mace disarms Sidious as in your supposed scenario, then he's dead. Clearly you have a hard time comprehending basic words (even if they are in complete capitals). There's no offensive, or defensive Force powers allowed in this fight (save for passive usage).
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Sidious would be beaten by Mace if no force is allowed. But I think Sidious can hold off Mace longer than Dooku. So, once Dooku falls, Yoda can help Sidious to finish Mace.
Does it really look like I give a shit? Why would you quote me, when nothing you wrote has anything to do with what I wrote? I'm not arguing who would win, or who can beat who. If I were, the topic would be over. So, please review carefully, and don't quote out of context, because it's annoying.
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Mar 31st, 2007 02:22 PM
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