Yes, Sidious does win, but it isn't easy. Unless the fight gets screwed by bad decisions by Lucas, and Sidious stabs Luke right away and then kills Vader in 7 seconds...
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Vader was 80% of a Sidious who had 20+ more years to fully devote himself to studying the darkside with basically endless resources.
Luke is a beast when he's "PO'ed," and is a very good duelist.
This is just the team that would overpower a more powerful Sidious, had Luke turned to the darkside.
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i always wondered what would happen if luke DID join vader in TESB, like after they killed sidious i wonder if luke would have killed his father as well
True, but if Sidious didn't practice with his lightsaber in those 20+ years, then Vader likely wouldn't be 80% of ROTS Sidious with a blade. With the Force, yeah, but not a blade. "PO'ed" Luke won't help, either, when he's PO'ed he goes beserk and he'll likely do as much damage as he'll do good. So I'm not so sure about your reasoning.
This is actually a tough fight. RotJ Luke and Vader are great, but RotS Sidious is as well. Though, If Sidious did not practice with his blade in those 20+ yrs, the only way he could win is with the Force.
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I don't know, it would be a good match, Vader doesn't suck, he is very good and Luke isn't extremely bad, Yoda and Obi wouldn't have send him to fight Vader and confront the Emperor, if he was so bad.
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This isn't ROTJ Sidious, its ROTS Sidious. In which case Sidious wins with a definitive victory over the father son team. Luke is a weakling compared to ROTS Sid's and Vader isn't going to be able to defend against Sid's Force lighting for very long, and we all know how Vader fares with being hit by Force lightning. I think Sidious downs Luke in less then 20 seconds a la Kit Fisto then toys with Vader until he decides to kill him.
Ahh yes I missed that. Sidious still takes it. Luke still dies a la Kit Fisto and then Sidious has a decently difficult battle with Vader, but he still wins.
I can certainly see Luke and Vader taking this since it's ROTS Sidious. Now, against ROTJ Sidious I think they would lose, but they should have a fair chance here. Vader alone should be able to almost match him in liightsaber combat. With a DS Luke, who is just reakin in raw power, Sidious will probably overwhelmed. That's unless Sidious manages to defeat one of them, probably Luke, with the Force before engaging in a saber fight.
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