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Darth Maul vs. General Grievous
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john allerdyce
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Darth Maul vs. General Grievous

*This is a pure saber to saber duel. Maul is not allowed to use the force offensively against Grievous at all.

*Maul gets his double bladed lightsaber, and Grievous has access to four lightsabers.

*This will be Grievous when he was healthy (before Mace crushed his chest.)

*Battle takes place in a completely flat desert setting.


Who is the better duelist?


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I wouldn't say Grievous is better, per se, but with 4 blades against 1, he takes this fight.

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Originally posted by truejedi
I wouldn't say Grievous is better, per se, but with 4 blades against 1, he takes this fight.
Grievous wouldn't necessarily be starting with all 4 sabers... He could just start with 1 or 2 of them for instance (whatever the standard is for him.) I just wanted to give him the option of making use of all of his appendages if need be... hence him having 4 sabers at his disposal.


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greivous slaughters.

2. 4. doesnt matter how many sabers he uses.


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I doubt GG would even need to use four lightsabers to win. Tbh, I'm hard-pressed to see Maul winning even if he could use the force offensively. /shrug


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I think Maul wins with the Force.

But without it, Grievous wins with 2 sabers. Maul puts up a rediculously good fight though. I say it lasts similarily in length to the Kenobi vs Skywalker duel on Mustafar.

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Yeah Maul would gain a big edge with the Force, but without he's overwhelmed.


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Wait... what do you mean no Force? You mean no Force pushes? Can he use the force to aid his saber fighting?

If he can then he destroys greivous. I mean please in the new animation youve had Fisto completely outclassing him with one saber(to start with). He used 2 when he took one off GG. And didnt Kolar also defeat him.

Maul is the guy who was more than a match for TPM Qui-Gon and Obiwan together! GG goes down hard!

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Yeah Maul would gain a big edge with the Force, but without he's overwhelmed.
Do you believe that if Maul were able to use the force he would beat Grievous? It didn't help Ventress, it didn't help Mundi, it didn't help the hundreds of other Jedi he slew. I understand what Mace did to him, but Maul is NO Mace.

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Wait... what do you mean no Force? You mean no Force pushes? Can he use the force to aid his saber fighting?
I mean he can't use the force in a direct manner against GG (force crush, force push, etc.)


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I do think Maul is a better duelist than Ventress or Mundi, though.


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Do you believe that if Maul were able to use the force he would beat Grievous? It didn't help Ventress, it didn't help Mundi, it didn't help the hundreds of other Jedi he slew. I understand what Mace did to him, but Maul is NO Mace.
That's racist.

Maul won't be Force Crunching Grievous' organs anytime soon, but if he's allowed to Force Push and Grip things, Grievous has no defence to that, only resistance. And Maul's no slouch. "Deadliest Sith apprentice in history" isn't some title thrown away every year at the annual Sith Convention. I think Grievous would still win more times than not, but he'll have his work cut out for him.


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Originally posted by john allerdyce
Do you believe that if Maul were able to use the force he would beat Grievous? It didn't help Ventress, it didn't help Mundi, it didn't help the hundreds of other Jedi he slew.
Mundi isn't comparable to Maul. It's arguable that TPM Qui Gon>Mundi as of that point in the Clone Wars. Maul trashed Jinn without breaking a sweat.

Maul is also consideraly better than Ventress as of this moment.

I also seriously doubt Grievous slayed "hundreds of Jedi". I doubt he slayed more than 40 Jedi.

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Maul is the guy who was more than a match for TPM Qui-Gon and Obiwan together!
Grievous would annihilate both Jinn and Kenobi.

Maul has shown the ability to become invisible for a short amount of time via the Force. Also, there's no reason to assume he can't move at rediculous speeds with it. He's already fast as hell without it.

It really depends because of the few different sources. The original cartoon indicated that Tyranus could easily defeat Grievous. In Labrynth of Evil, I believe, Tyranus reflects something along the lines that Grievous could push him to the limit. Obviously, the cartoon differed from this.

It should also be noted that in the same book, Tryanus states that he pities Grievous should he have to fight one of the council members. Obviously, Mundi is no match for him. But such Jedi at the level of Yoda and Mace would obviously trash Grievous. He warns Grievous of Kenobi.

Darth Maul>>>AOTC Kenobi

ROTS Kenobi>/=Darth Maul

You can't compare any of the Jedi Grievous has slain to Maul.

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I also seriously doubt Grievous slayed "hundreds of Jedi". I doubt he slayed more than 40 Jedi.
40 my arse! The Jedi Council confirmed that GG killed hundreds of their brethren.


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40 my arse! The Jedi Council confirmed that GG killed hundreds of their brethren.


Thats because hes a brillaint startegist and in charge of the droid army.
Nowhere are we told that hes killed that many in saber fights.

Look Ki-Adi-Mundi was exhausted when he fought GG. Otherwise its seems perfectly clear to me from the new animation that any accomplished Master from the council should be able to take GG.

Fisto tooled him. Are you saying now that Maul is no match for Fisto??!!
Maul whose a perfect form 7 practioner(the deadliest form).
Maul whose physical and force assisted abilities were pushed to the limit from day 1 by Sidious.

The new animation is T-Canon. Which is above any C-Canon novels in canonicity. T-canon is only beaten by the G-canon movies in authenticity. I beleive even the original clone wars mini was G-canon, so not as high up as the new animation in canonicity.

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Grievous does not have the force, Darth Maul can obviously handle more than 1 saber, my vote is for Maul

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