Who: Luke vs Sidious, both in their prime, which I assume is FOTJ (for Luke) and DE (for Darth Sidious).
What:
1. Lightsaber duel
2. Force duel
3. Force TK tug-of-war
4. Hand to hand
5. Knowledge of the Force
6 All out
When: um...well, both are fresh, have had good sleep/full bellies and are ready to fight.
Where: Senate chamber where Yoda and Sidious fought
Why: To settle the long standing debate.
How: See the what section, both sides have their typical equipment...aka lightsabers and clothes.
PIS is, of course, OFF
CIS is OFF
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Wasn't there another thread about this same match-up posted only two weeks ago? I'm fairly certain pitting the two God Tier characters against each other is comically overdone by now.
This one has more categories; for example, the TK tug of war is supposed to be matching them in terms of pure Force strength/control.
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1. Luke 9-10/10
2. IDK, probably Sidious
3. Luke 7/10
4. Luke 10/10
5. Probably Sidious
6. Luke 9-10/10
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Why? Because The Ultimate Canonical Source: Myopic Sidious Fanboy Edition explicitly proclaims that Sidious is the official deity of mankind and urges all to kneel down and pray to their Palpatine life-sized busts every 10 minutes. I do it every five minutes, and with gusto.
Hey, here's an idea--how about we just ban all threads that have both "Luke" and "Palpatine/Sidious" in the title?
This is actually a fine debate; both Luke and Sidious have plenty of feats and quotes and the question of Luke vs Sidious is a pretty large one.
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1. Luke uses his lightsaber regularly, whereas Sidious has been out of practice for years.
2. Sidious has more offensive Force powers such as Force lightning/Force storm.
3. Luke has much better TK feats, whereas Sidious's only notable TK feat that I'm aware of is hurling senate pods.
4. In Fate of the Jedi: Backlash, Luke was stated to have trained in more martial arts styles than Firen (a witch of dathomir), who seemed to be pretty good at hand to hand combat, had fingers and toes.
5. Sidious has had more time to study such things and arguably more resources to do so as well.
6. Because neither is likely powerful enough to overcome the other's Force defenses, or at least not at the get go, the battle will likely come down to a saber duel, in which Luke is far superior for reasons stated earlier - more regular use of it, since Sidious has been out of practice for years.
So you're indirectly insulting Gideon.
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Got a thing from deflecting blame/shame, don't ya, Rudy?
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I can list several other people that have brought up this topic...and yet you only complain when I do it.
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Because they're not the Cousin Oliver of this place. Because I get a kick out of seeing you offended. Because Nai's response directed at you about your statement garnered an attempted deflection away from you and towards Gideon. Because you generally suck at casting yourself in a good light. Because you play the victim. Because I have nothing better to do? Probably.
Ah well. Hugs and kisses, sugar.
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Whoopie-ka-dooo.
No, jabroni. I'm directly insulting you and not indirectly insulting Gideon. Who the hell gives a crap about Gideons beliefs when we two are talking? I was clearly commenting on your statement that this is a "big topic", wasn't I?
And, gosh, it isn't a big topic. Either you stick with Lucas words and this can be solved by two lines of text or you ignore the creator of Star Wars - which would still be fine with me - and do it the rough way. This would mean that you have to take anything the source material says into consideration, which happens to equip Luke with about a dozen of deus-ex-machina force abilties, of which each would be sufficient to tool anybody else in the SW universe. And assuming that VS-matches are usually done with people in their "top shape", Luke could use every single one of that abilities.
That aside, I don't see any link to Gideons line of thought, which was based upon the different power levels attributed to Luke through-out the EU (ranging from "unable to defeat a single droideka" to "godlike"), which are already nullified by the usual conditions assumed for VS-matches in the context of this forum, which are clearly based on the idea that the contestants are in top shape (capable of performing / replicating their most prominent showings). Which would always come down to Luke in his "godlike" shape VS a not-so-godlike Sidious.
There you go.
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